Busher100 750 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 I know a few of you keep non peds do you prefer the smaller 20 to 30 pounders or scratch dogs and why also what game have you taken with them? Do you prefer them once crossed into a lurcher? Any pics you have got put them up.Cheers fella's atb Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,739 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) I've had several,...they really are one of the most beautiful and eye catching running dog composites... They are Masters of the Track,.....they are great at what they have been created to do... However,. those who seek to produce, a rough, tough, roustabout working style lurcher,.should always be mindful of that fact. Edited April 30, 2017 by Phil Lloyd 3 Quote Link to post
Who 179 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Love this type of dog, prefer the bigger ones myself This non ped bitch about 23 tts and prob 30 odd pound This non ped dog was 26tts and just shy of 60 pound This dog is saluki x non ped. 27tts and about 60-65pound The bitch is dam to both the dogs Quote Link to post
jeemes 5,037 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 my mate finally got a non ped whippet last year after us looking everywhere,but was unfortunately crippled for good 3rd time out on lamp.I dont know if it was not fit enough but I do think you have to consider where they are going to be run,as injuries could be a problem for some. 3 Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 my mate finally got a non ped whippet last year after us looking everywhere,but was unfortunately crippled for good 3rd time out on lamp.I dont know if it was not fit enough but I do think you have to consider where they are going to be run,as injuries could be a problem for some. i had none ped whippet bitch very fast of the mark , she was 20in 20lb, won few races with her, took her few times on the lamp, but took it easy with her, walked her up to rabbits, even if they got up 15-20yds in front she would nail them . i would never use a whippet really for the old lamping job, there ok, but like above them and greys , pure sighthounds there to quick for there own good at times , and 20-35 lb whippet bust easy . i had prob better times with her in the day mooching she had good little nose for finding stuff . for lamping you carnt beat a lurcher what ever the x and regards out xing them , they go well with either a beddy ,and drop of bull not bad mix either, as there staff in most none ped whippets anyway , you could see it them down the black country cannock, etc were they run them there 3 Quote Link to post
Busher100 750 Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Phil thats a lovely looking dog what else is in there apart from non ped? Who how did you find the non peds on teeth or were they only really suitable for edible qaurry? Also what were the breeding of the non peds used? cheers Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,739 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Phil thats a lovely looking dog what else is in there apart from non ped? Who how did you find the non peds on teeth or were they only really suitable for edible qaurry? Also what were the breeding of the non peds used? cheers The bitch was mostly comprised of what I term,.."Hard Blood"....racing whippet stock,...but she also had a smidgen of herding dog in her ancestry... Yes, she was a nice sort of thing....No,..I have no need to kill anything that bites back,....and at the time I was being paid to only catch rabbits .... I fear that particular bitch, albeit quicksilver fast,..simply could not handle, the daily grind of Downland rabbit control.... I regretted saying goodbye,... 1 Quote Link to post
Who 179 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 Phil thats a lovely looking dog what else is in there apart from non ped? Who how did you find the non peds on teeth or were they only really suitable for edible qaurry? Also what were the breeding of the non peds used? cheers Never worked the bitch as got her as a older dog. Her breeding is sugar fire x greyhound (ruby Wednesday). The middle pick is Hellbound x the above bitch. Started off well but ended up a tail chaser when run solo. Very good dog on edible though. The saluki x is only 2 and not been run on teeth but wasn't bred for that to be honest Quote Link to post
Busher100 750 Posted April 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 What do you mean by hard blood phil? Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,739 Posted April 30, 2017 Report Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) What do you mean by hard blood phil? Many of the early 70s and 80s non-ped, purpose bred racing whippets exhibited an amazing muscular physique,.possibly influenced by the blood of the Staffie... These were great, solid wee bush busters and hedgerow workers,...and I've caught hares and roe deer on the stubble with some of 35lb and larger examples... However,..most of the whippet racing back then was conducted on a yds per pound basis, ..so the aim of many enthusiasts was to breed a wee'un, that could match a big yin for pace, whilst still being physically lightweight enough, to be awarded yardage. Unfortunately, this practice does not always work out. There is a lot to the breeding and conditioning of top class track dogs....and although for many, it is a family affair,..for others it is very serious... I remember my own, 1980s whippets,..they were what is colloculy known as being Bilko Bred,...and they resembled mini Whippet /Bull terriers... Lovely things, full of fire,..physiques like power lifters,..but with the bodyweight to go with it... Not so good in a race governed by weight limits.. Hence the return, to the more slender, fabulous whippet /greyhound shape,.often without the bulkiness of the old style Hard Blood influence.. Facts are,..the modern racing whippet,.really is some special canine...made for the racing game,.and same as the Pit Bull,..it is near on, physical perfection. Edited May 1, 2017 by Phil Lloyd 7 Quote Link to post
jeemes 5,037 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 You can easily access non ped pedigrees (they should be called non kc) on internet and you will see that they are bred down Greyhounds. They can do some very good times over the sprint distance on Greyhound tracks which usually takes place in early autumn. Quote Link to post
Busher100 750 Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 How did the people who worked the non peds find their stamina and feet? Quote Link to post
Penda 3,355 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 My dads old pal used to race whippets many years ago with great success the line came through a bitch that was near enough part feral they called Gillette if I'm right Quote Link to post
Busher100 750 Posted May 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 Where they used for working or just racing penda? Quote Link to post
Penda 3,355 Posted May 1, 2017 Report Share Posted May 1, 2017 A couple of them were used for ferreting but the one had a bad run in with a barb wire fence so it was the end of them going out I think Quote Link to post
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