Lambs Don't Come Out Of Lions ! Or Do They ?

[terryd 8,955]

 

 

 

 

My dog is keen as mustard and lots of drive too much if I am honest and the rest of the litter are the same as far as I know. Both parents workers. But he needed no input off me in any shape or fashion to work

They need feeding,housing,meds,cleaning,walking,educating,training etc.etc.etc.Ill warrant it needed more input than you may realise.They need shaping and fashioning long before they are suited to work.

What I meant was from the word go he wanted to hunt and hunt well. His a natural due to his breeding I guess. Obviously you need to mould things to what you require

I knew what you meant,i believed you needed reminding about the input you had on the mutts capability once entered.

I agree with this. You're selling yourself short Terry. He might have been born with hunting instinct but that alone didn't make him the dog he is today. You did that fella

 

 

cheers Gaz he has plenty of short comings and some of them quite bad ones unfortunately . A few folks would have waved him good bye a long time ago for sure. But for me its on wards and upwards and he will be a diamond by the time he is about 8 . But going back the original post hunting wise he was there from the moment he landed and bagged his first mouse. So I reckon a dog from good breeding will get you most the way there

 

Edited June 26, 2016 by terryd

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

 

 

 

My dog is keen as mustard and lots of drive too much if I am honest and the rest of the litter are the same as far as I know. Both parents workers. But he needed no input off me in any shape or fashion to work

They need feeding,housing,meds,cleaning,walking,educating,training etc.etc.etc.Ill warrant it needed more input than you may realise.They need shaping and fashioning long before they are suited to work.

What I meant was from the word go he wanted to hunt and hunt well. His a natural due to his breeding I guess. Obviously you need to mould things to what you require

I knew what you meant,i believed you needed reminding about the input you had on the mutts capability once entered.

I agree with this. You're selling yourself short Terry. He might have been born with hunting instinct but that alone didn't make him the dog he is today. You did that fella

cheers Gaz he has plenty of short comings and some of them quite bad ones unfortunately . A few folks would have waved him good bye a long time ago for sure. But for me its on wards and upwards and he will be a diamond by the time he is about 8 . But going back the original post hunting wise he was there from the moment he landed and bagged his first mouse. So I reckon a dog from good breeding will get you most the way there

 

There ain't many of them perfect runners out there matey don't worry about that. All of mine have got faults but they are my faults and I will live with them.

 

He was a smart pup.

[desertbred 5,490]

People cant teach a hound anything about hunting , they can only expose what is already there in its DNA.. Sight hounds have a trait to chase anything that moves, that has been bred into them over thousands of years, some of them may employ the trait better than others and others less so that is ability and motivation.Breed from good stock chances are you will get decent workers ,may be even some exceptional animals, breed from crap guess what you will probably end up with. The character on the other end of the rope can enhance the inherent qualities or they can as the saying goes f**k an iron ball up

[billhardy 2,343]

 

Something loads of people seem to overlook is that what an animal actually does between birth and being mated doesn't matter a dot. Wether it worked every day for 7 years or never left the sofa. The dogs experiences aren't being passed on to the pups.

Granted you won't know if the dog was ever gonna do the job if you don't test it. But there's a good chance most of Hancocks stock would do the job if tested, which is why it's not a surprise that he produces grafters, he just can't afford to graft them to find out.

Edited to add - I personally wouldn't have a pup out of anything other than parents that I had seen doing the job and I knew they excelled at what I wanted to do. But as said above I can see why people buy from the likes of Hancock and why they work out.

 

Ive lost count of the amount of times a sapling as done something in the field that it was never introduced to,yet,that its parents and grand-parents did.Its uncanny at times when a sapling instinctively does something its never been taught but its breeding did.

to right traits and breeding for the qualities desired in that type, atb bunnys.

[Casso 1,264]

In any litter to any bitch your going to have a spectrum of temperaments , this is how animals evolve, if a litter is born in the wild certain temperaments will excell and it doesnt have to be the higher tempered pups shy more withdrawn types can thrive if an environment is heavily predated ,

 

I seen very few litter where all temperaments are particularly similar and a sure sign of this is pups which fight constantly without provocation

So even in police work you might get one in a litter that makes the mark from two driven animals in the same as before when you breed for high driven your also breeding for nervous dogs to complete the temperment of every litter

 

The spectrum of heart( temperament) is in every litter , thankfully most of the work we expect from running dogs now are easily encompassed within most litter , still you pay your money and you take a chance