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[ratbuster 808]

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https://www.change.org/p/council-of-the-european-union-eu-you-cannot-stop-terrorism-by-restricting-legal-gun-ownership?recruiter=429886554&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

[ianm 2,594]

Signed, thanks for that.

[Born Hunter 17,907]

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[air gun ant 1,666]

whys it need my home address?

[ratbuster 808]

Don't have a clue.....

 

Put a fake one in.......

[air gun ant 1,666]

F**k it lol done it anyway

[mad4it 695]

done it

[Lid 194]

Please also email you mp and your meps. This site finds your mps and meps and helps you email them.

 

This is what I sent to my mp, although I sent the email directly because I know him. I am going to add a bit more about Belgium when I send something to my to my meps. However I will also wait to see how my MP responds too.

 

Dear..........

 

I am deeply shocked by the recent terrorists attacks in Paris, Beirut, Bamako and elsewhere. However as a keen sporting shooter I am dismayed at the EU commission’s reaction in proposing further bans on law abiding firearms owners, such as myself (link here). I am sure that these proposals are only being put forward now so that the European public feel some action is being taken to prevent any similar murderous acts of violence in the future.

 

However the reality is that the recently proposed EU firearms legislation aims squarely at the wrong target. We all know that the real problem is illegal guns, in which there has been a thriving trade in Belgium as an example. These new proposals would have had no effect whatsoever in preventing the recent atrocities, because the weapons used are already fully outlawed outside the armed forces.

 

Please can I ask you to support all sporting and vermin shooters in Great Britain and oppose any further restrictions in firearms ownership. It is unfair and unproductive to target a legitimate minority, especially when it will actually divert already scarce resources from addressing the real problems.

 

[goldfinger 135]

Just sent same message to all local and district mp's,thanks Lid,

Edited November 26, 2015 by goldfinger

[Lid 194]

I wrote to 7 MEP's this morning and this is the reply from the UKIP member :

Thank you for your email regarding the proposed new firearms restrictions addressed to Stuart Agnew MEP. He has asked me to reply to you on his behalf.

 

UKIP MEPs were elected on a platform of withdrawal from the EU and thus have no mandate for supporting EU legislative proposals and would not, therefore, support this legislation. The danger with these proposals is that they are a kneejerk reaction to what happened in Paris that may end up penalising the law abiding while not affecting the terrorists. Ironically, the EU itself is in part responsible for making it so easy for the jihadist terrorists to do what they did because of its failed open door immigration and asylum policies. Some of those responsible for the killings in Paris have been identified as coming in through Greece, as part of the refugee exodus.

 

I should add that firearms are already well regulated in this country and interference from the EU is, therefore, not required.

 

The UKIP MEPs are opposed, as a matter of principle, to unelected members of the European Commission being the sole originators of all new EU legislation, much of which is binding upon the British people. They regard this matter as none of the EU's business and will vote against the final legislation. However, they will consider their position on any proposed amendments.

 

It should be a matter for our elected Government and Parliament at Westminster, not the unelected European Commission in Brussels. However, do bear in mind that there are 751 MEPs and the UK has just 73. Many of the latter are EU supporters and will not vote against the Commission. Another problem we have to face is that many member state countries are net beneficiaries of EU largesse (taxpayers' money) and will rarely vote against the Commission i.e. bite the hand that feeds them. It is a deeply undemocratic and unsatisfactory system and is one of the many reasons why UKIP MEPs campaign so hard for UK withdrawal.

 

UKIP was created in 1993 to campaign for our country's freedom from the EU and we will continue to campaign for exactly that outcome.

 

Best wishes

 

Stuart Gulleford

Political Advisor to Stuart Agnew MEP

 

 

and this is the auto reply from Vicky Ford (Conservative) :

 

Thank you for contacting Vicky Ford MEP.

 

The Parliament is now in recess until Monday 5 January 2015.

 

 

[Lid 194]

Vicky Ford has replied as follows :

Dear Sir/Madam,

 

Thank you for writing to me about this.

 

In the aftermath of the tragic Paris attacks, it is right that we look at what more can be done on a practical basis to tackle terrorism and criminal activities. Effective gun controls are part of this.

 

The Commission came up with new legislation last week, referred to the Internal Market Committee for scrutiny and potential amendment, which I chair. There has been no discussion on the legislation yet but I have put it on the Committee's agenda next week.

 

There has been European legislation on firearms since 1991, last reviewed in 2008. This new proposal includes elements that will improve sharing of registers across borders between Member States, enhance the marking of weapons and enable the tracking of deactivated arms, such as those of a historical nature.

 

Concerns have been raised by members of the public on parts of the detailed drafting, particularly of the use of the word "resemble" and the exact nature of the responsibilities for museums and collectors. I hope that these details can be addressed during the Committee process.

 

The weapons that were used in the Paris attacks were illegal. Their ownership was illegal and the trading of these weapons was illegal. Whilst it is right that at this time we check for any loopholes in the law and improve communication, any new legislation must be coupled with much greater enforcement against illegal arms, crime and terrorism.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Vicky Ford MEP

 

[Lid 194]

Reply received today from Tim Aker, another Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy Group MEP (UKIP) :

 

 

EU Firearms Proposals

 

Thank you for writing to me on this issue. The Commission draft has not yet reached the parliament, so we are not in a position to comment on the detail. However two points are very clear.

 

First, the weapons used in the Paris atrocity, and more generally the weapons used in most terrorist attacks, are illegally-held weapons. Changing the law on gun ownership is therefore unlikely to have any significant impact on the availability of weapons to terrorists. Indeed the EU is clearly the problem, not the solution. There is extensive evidence that for example Croatia, which recently joined the EU, is a hotbed of smuggling – not only of arms, but also of money, drugs, people and even human organs. It has been said (and it is no exaggeration) that free movement of goods and people in the EU (and especially the Schengen area) has led to free movement of Kalashnikovs.

 

The problem is not that we have too little regulation, but that we are failing to implement the legislation we already have.

 

Secondly, so far as we understand it the UK already has some of the tightest firearms regulation in the world. We do not believe that further legislation at the EU level will make any additional contribution to public safety. In any case we in UKIP are opposed in principle to any extension of competences at the EU level.

 

I therefore believe that we in UKIP will be opposing the new EU Firearms proposal. Sadly, however, I fear it will be approved anyway. There is nothing most MEPs like more than a nice piece of gesture politics in response to public concern – whether or not their gesture has any practical effect.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Tim Aker MEP