VWman 232 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I went in the shed with lights after work on Saturday afternoon an put a target up at about 26 metres. I have noticed people saying one pellet is ok, two pellets is luck but three pellets in the bull is fact. Thing is its a pain to keep changing the target so I just kept going with the same card about 30 pellets and it drilled a hole in the bull as it would. When I went down to get the target I notice that I had drilled the left side of the bull. I seem to pull to the left even though the rifle is zeroed, is that normal. I was a left hander at small school but they changed me to right hand, back in the day they said left handed was not normal I know I am not normal but that has nothing to do with left or right handed LOL. ( thought I would say that first before you did ) By the way it was with a break barrel springer .177 2 Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,589 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 If you are shooting left handed, as I am, it might be you could be giving a little too much pressure on the trigger with every shot fired and pulling the rifle consistently off to left of centre. You might be better off to soften the let-off pressure by giving the adjuster screw, behind the trigger-blade a turn to left. Same principle applies to right-handers.Mainly though, pay attention to how you release the trigger. If you know for certain that, the rifle is zeroed correctly but is now putting shots to one side of the zero-bullseye, the fault is, you are pulling off-target with a bit too much tug on your trigger!You should just gently press the shot off with your finger. No snatches or sharp pulling on the trigger but nice, easy, slow pressure to keep the rifle as still as possible while you fire.The whole art of shooting a spring recoiling rifle with sharp, precision accuracy lies in gentle, finesse on the part of the shooter, of the whole cycle of shooting. From the way you hold it, shoulder it and fire it.Nothing ever pulled or rushed or anything that feels uncomfortable to you.ATBSimon 3 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 i can remember some one not a million miles away giving me the same advice over my 97 when i was doing the same thing and that advice was spot on, is that not right Simon VMan Simon no,s his stuff when it comes to springers and as all ways he is spot on its not the rifle its you so you do need to adjust the trigger to make it lighter so you will not pull the rifle to the left atvbmac :thumbs: 2 Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Thanks guys I know its me I just did not know that I was doing wrong. The rifle is far better than I am, it's a SFS hw98. I thought it was better to ask than just keep plugging on. I got it off a guy from York who was leaving England to live in Spain and he used it for HFT ( it's a this years rifle and was lucky to find it) I had to have it as I had just fitted my mate up with my new just run in hw95 just to get him away in the sport because he was dithering around with no real time to find what he wanted so the lazy bugger let me do all the hard work, he is a very good mate and I wanted him to get going with out the risk of getting some cheap crap. I will take it in the barn tomorrow after work, how much should I alter the trigger screw ? 1 Quote Link to post
Zimpara 99 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Another possibility is firing from a different position. If I zero standing rested and then shoot standing unsupported my shots hit 3 inches high. :-) 1 Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,568 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Ceck for scope cant too VW atb 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 A quarter of a turn to the left then try it if not right repeat until it is . atvbmac :thumbs: 3 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Another possibility is firing from a different position. If I zero standing rested and then shoot standing unsupported my shots hit 3 inches high. :-) Thats all you once the rifle is zero,d you should hit every thing it makes no difference what position your in I shoot prone and kneeling and the same result every time the pray is dead end of now when it comes to standing unsupported then its me as i am not very good at it but some times i can pull it off I all ways zero my rifles laying prone ,that way the rifle is steady and strait ,but my p,o,i is the same kill zone atvbmac :thumbs: 2 Quote Link to post
jonnie bravo 572 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 There's half a chance that you were looking through the scope a little to one side, and your parallax wasn't set to the distance you were shooting at. This can put your shot off just a wee bit. You will see what I mean if you set your crosshair on a small target and move your head side to side slightly, your point of aim will move side to side too 1 Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 There's half a chance that you were looking through the scope a little to one side, and your parallax wasn't set to the distance you were shooting at. This can put your shot off just a wee bit. You will see what I mean if you set your crosshair on a small target and move your head side to side slightly, your point of aim will move side to side too I will try that as I have not really got to grips with it. The scope was se up by the guy I got the rifle off and he was a HFT lad. I sat it on a rest and concentrated hard and all three shots were pellet on pellet so I have just left it. I think I have just been plugging away at the same target about 30 or 40 shots and I think it has shown up a bad habit. Could well be trigger and the way I view through the scope. cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Thanks for all the replies, it has given me some things to think about. Things that I thought are:- - when I am plugging I rush the shot. - I have not got to grips with the scope, it's a big long Hawke 400mm long and it's 6-24x50 AO there is a logo on the left side of the tube that looks like a rat coming out of a hole with cross hairs on it. He said he had it a long time and liked it and moved it from all the rifles he had owned. It feels like it is a good scope but I have been used too 3-9x40 short hunters ?. - I will fit a shorter scope and shoulder to eye a bit better, it's not set up for me I am just trying to make the best of it until I get some spare cash. -If I concentrate I can get the centre of the bull and if I take it quick I am just a little off say about 8mm. I will keep practicing as it is pheasant season on the farm and there are shoots most days which leaves me around the barns which is not that bad realy. Edited November 15, 2015 by VWman Quote Link to post
Zimpara 99 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 What range do you zero at? Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 For me a spring set up is different ever time I take it out. It might be bang on one day and 5mm off the next session, through loads of reasons. I doesn't hurt to back some paper before you head into the field. Shooting a springer "cold" is a sure way of missing targets you would of took after an hour or two "warm-up". I understand that this isn't always possible of course but it does help no end. 1 Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 What range do you zero at? I have not moved the settings on this scope as it was set up by the last owner who was a HFT target shooter not a hunter. The barn is 30 meters long and when I have my back against the back wall it is 3 in the centre of the bull first 2 pellet on pellet and the next one half a 177 pellet off but that's me not the rifle. I moved forward to 26 mertres and it's the same . I set a plastic tub filled with sand at about 15 mtrs and it's spot on so I have not altered it. When I drift to the left it's when I am standing in a cold shed after work and I am just plugging away say 40 50 shots one after the other and I noticed I had a habit, it's the first time I have shot that many through one target and wondered weather it is a classic trait. Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted November 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 For me a spring set up is different ever time I take it out. It might be bang on one day and 5mm off the next session, through loads of reasons. I doesn't hurt to back some paper before you head into the field. Shooting a springer "cold" is a sure way of missing targets you would of took after an hour or two "warm-up". I understand that this isn't always possible of course but it does help no end. Yes Rez I am not complaining I am just trying to improve and thought I would just have a chit chat about it. I know there are some good shooters on here and no mater how good I get to grips with it all I will never be to proud to ask the question. Cold Rez that about sums it up but I feel lucky to have the long shed to shoot in. There is a log burner in there and the farm fitter leaves it on some times which just takes the edge off it when he has been in there all day. Quote Link to post
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