Peter Hitchens Says It All For Me

[crowsnest 55]

i must be an arsehole aswell then

[BRYAN3 29]

It seems that I too am an arsehole.

 

The even bigger arseholes are our leaders,bankers etc that run the country.

They own land,housing,businesses etc and soon the NHS.

By over populating the country they keep labour costs down and property prices up.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

So not one of you knows the difference between a refugee and an immigrant.

 

I have stated before, illegal immigration must be stopped, immigration must be controlled. It cannot be stopped as we emigrate to every country so what right do we have to stop people coming in but let Brits colonise anywhere they like ? (we export criminals and terrorists as well remember)

 

Numbers must be controlled and who gets in should be controlled and they should be strictly vetted

 

These are IMMIGRANTS These are people travelling for economical or social reasons (got that bit ?)

 

 

The next group of people we shall talk about are, REFUGEES

 

These are people fleeing persecution and war, whether political or religious (both usually)

They are people in fear of there very existence and that of their family.

They are travelling to stay alive.

 

It is our duty to help the people in this group just as we have done throughout history (half of Europe during the first half of the 20th century)

They should be helped and aided and when safe to do so be given every opportunity to travel home in safety and to take with them any life they have built whilst being helped in our country.

 

 

 

Still with me ?

 

Right. The above are MY views. The government does not implement them and as such has created a disaster in this country with uncontrolled immigration allowing all and sundry to enter and doing nothing about illegal entrants either.

This has NOTHING to do with helping Refugees, does it ?

 

Can anyone see the difference in the two groups yet ? or understand why the Hungarian is an arsehole ?

 

 

I struggle to understand how the same people who bitch and moan about Hungarian gypsies and gangsters coming over here , hold aloft and applaud their PM for not taking immigrants !??? Basically he said we don`t want them the rest of Europe should have them, but don`t dare stop our beggars sitting on your high street.

 

 

 

Can anyone spell irony ?

[Rake aboot 4,936]

And while I`m at it

 

I said

"That doesn`t change the fact that some folk on here are arseholes that won`t answer a single question and just spout the same old dogmatic crap without one single effective or constructive idea or input."

 

 

If that hat fits, then ask yourself why

[BRYAN3 29]

Rake.

I am not still with you because I can't be bothered to read ALL your post.

As you seem to know it all, answer this.

Were all the "refugees/immigrants that refused to register and provide fingerprints hiding somethng?

[Rake aboot 4,936]

Rake.

I am not still with you because I can't be bothered to read ALL your post.

As you seem to know it all, answer this.

Were all the "refugees/immigrants that refused to register and provide fingerprints hiding somethng?

 

Whats the point answering you ?

I can`t be arsed reading you point of view ?

 

 

Ignorant arse. What a stupid thing to post !

[BRYAN3 29]

It was simple question.

[underground 48]

"I fall into the arsehole bracket as i do not want a single one in this country"

 

+1

i must be a arsehole as well

[Rake aboot 4,936]

It was simple question.

 

Yeh and the answers in the post you couldn`t be arsed reading.

 

I have no agreement whatsoever with anyone working outside the immigration rules. Illegal is illegal and should never be allowed to happen.

Read the part where I said all should be thoroughly vetted. If they are hiding anything, don`t let them in, simple.

 

There you go, answered you twice.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

 

"I fall into the arsehole bracket as i do not want a single one in this country"

 

+1

i must be a arsehole as well

 

 

 

Why are you an arsehole ? tell me ?

[underground 48]

So not one of you knows the difference between a refugee and an immigrant.

 

I have stated before, illegal immigration must be stopped, immigration must be controlled. It cannot be stopped as we emigrate to every country so what right do we have to stop people coming in but let Brits colonise anywhere they like ? (we export criminals and terrorists as well remember)

 

Numbers must be controlled and who gets in should be controlled and they should be strictly vetted

 

These are IMMIGRANTS These are people travelling for economical or social reasons (got that bit ?)

 

 

The next group of people we shall talk about are, REFUGEES

 

These are people fleeing persecution and war, whether political or religious (both usually)

They are people in fear of there very existence and that of their family.

They are travelling to stay alive.

 

It is our duty to help the people in this group just as we have done throughout history (half of Europe during the first half of the 20th century)

They should be helped and aided and when safe to do so be given every opportunity to travel home in safety and to take with them any life they have built whilst being helped in our country.

 

 

 

Still with me ?

 

Right. The above are MY views. The government does not implement them and as such has created a disaster in this country with uncontrolled immigration allowing all and sundry to enter and doing nothing about illegal entrants either.

This has NOTHING to do with helping Refugees, does it ?

 

Can anyone see the difference in the two groups yet ? or understand why the Hungarian is an arsehole ?

 

 

I struggle to understand how the same people who bitch and moan about Hungarian gypsies and gangsters coming over here , hold aloft and applaud their PM for not taking immigrants !??? Basically he said we don`t want them the rest of Europe should have them, but don`t dare stop our beggars sitting on your high street.

 

 

 

Can anyone spell irony ?

tw*t!

[shepp 2,285]

 

Rake.

I am not still with you because I can't be bothered to read ALL your post.

As you seem to know it all, answer this.

Were all the "refugees/immigrants that refused to register and provide fingerprints hiding somethng?

 

Whats the point answering you ?

I can`t be arsed reading you point of view ?

 

 

Ignorant arse. What a stupid thing to post !

Not all of these people in Hungary are refugees from Syria. A reporter the other day told of how he spoke to a Pakistani and a Bangladeshie on the train. Afghans are also there.

 

There had been some not willing to be finger printed, some have even burn them off with acid.

 

Quote from the Guardian-

 

'Shockingly, even those who have been fingerprinted elsewhere (and therefore only qualify for refugee status in that country) will often go to the extreme measure of burning their hands in the mistaken belief that it will remove their fingerprints. "The problem is that once they've had fingerprints taken in Italy, under the Dublin convention they are supposed to continue to stay in Italy," explains Ben Rawlence of Human Rights Watch. "But they want to go to a country with a much better support system where they can get training, housing and a helping hand to start their lives."

 

That was the Guardian, so it will be a pro immigration sanitised version. Could also be some have been involved in criminality somewhere and have decided to change identity. Maybe even returning to where they committed the crime. That's one of the problems, we have no idea who they really are or their history. Only the one they want to tell us, in some cases that is.

Edited September 6, 2015 by shepp

[underground 48]

 

 

"I fall into the arsehole bracket as i do not want a single one in this country"

 

+1

i must be a arsehole as well

 

 

 

Why are you an arsehole ? tell me ?

 

read the article and tell us which part is incorrect

[shepp 2,285]

I think another problem is we don't have the trust in our government to send anybody back anywhere once there is peace in their countries, and quite rightly so.

If there had not been some many immigrants taken in over the past 15 years then we would have been a lot more tolerant, but that is not the case. Combine that with the problems we've had with Muslims, can you really expect us to stand here with open arms. I personally would let in only Christians and Yasidis, the others need to be taken by Muslim countries or taken care of in refugee camps nearer home.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

 

 

 

"I fall into the arsehole bracket as i do not want a single one in this country"

 

+1

i must be a arsehole as well

 

 

 

Why are you an arsehole ? tell me ?

 

read the article and tell us which part is incorrect

 

 

What are you talking about.?

 

And why am I a twat ? from behind your keyboard ?