bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Saturday morning debate by David Dimberley Evans eh ? I`m in the same boat as VM lads - i too use both and both short rifles to boot (hides). My preference as you know is .177 as it allows me to thread shots through spindle and such like. If i am shooting open areas the HW 100 ks .22 is a devastatingly accurate rifle but i do practice my milldots on a regular basis. So it`s each to their own i suppose but a nudge to .177 for night shooting especially (but that`s just me). Hope it helps any. But i can do this with 22 and often do when im on the crows YOU NO YOUR RIGHT THERE BOTH AS GOOD AS EACH OTHER but its still 22 for me just because i cant shoot 177 for shit lol atvbmac :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,982 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 22 bigger pellet harder hitting and for proper shooters as 177 is only used by shooters who like to think they can shoot :whistling: atvbmac IT's NOT harder hitting , if both .177 and .22 pellets are hitting the target @6ft/lb ,thats 6 ft/lb for both , mac are you having a blonde moment 1 Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 THAT TOLD YOU BIG FELLA lol Atb mate 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 :feck: TWATS Quote Link to post
villaman 9,982 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Saturday morning debate by David Dimberley Evans eh ? I`m in the same boat as VM lads - i too use both and both short rifles to boot (hides). My preference as you know is .177 as it allows me to thread shots through spindle and such like. If i am shooting open areas the HW 100 ks .22 is a devastatingly accurate rifle but i do practice my milldots on a regular basis. So it`s each to their own i suppose but a nudge to .177 for night shooting especially (but that`s just me). Hope it helps any. But i can do this with 22 and often do when im on the crows YOU NO YOUR RIGHT THERE BOTH AS GOOD AS EACH OTHER but its still 22 for me just because i cant shoot 177 for shit lol atvbmac :thumbs: You can't shoot for shit ,dosnt matter what cal 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 WELL IT PUTS A BIGGER HOLE IN EM GO ON SAY THEY DONT atvbmac :thumbs: Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Saturday morning debate by David Dimberley Evans eh ? I`m in the same boat as VM lads - i too use both and both short rifles to boot (hides). My preference as you know is .177 as it allows me to thread shots through spindle and such like. If i am shooting open areas the HW 100 ks .22 is a devastatingly accurate rifle but i do practice my milldots on a regular basis. So it`s each to their own i suppose but a nudge to .177 for night shooting especially (but that`s just me). Hope it helps any. But i can do this with 22 and often do when im on the crows YOU NO YOUR RIGHT THERE BOTH AS GOOD AS EACH OTHER but its still 22 for me just because i cant shoot 177 for shit lol atvbmac :thumbs: You can't shoot for shit ,dosnt matter what cal WELL IM GETTING THERE JUST LOL ATVBMAC :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,568 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Mitch please let me know the outcome of the 7.9 express mate - cheers. Mac 28yds is "middle or central stitch " 35 yds is "one stitch up" 40 yds is " 0ne and a half stitches up" The rest is " out of fecking range" Edited July 25, 2015 by mark williams Quote Link to post
villaman 9,982 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Can a hw100 in .22 take down rabbits at the same distance as a .177 and what are the pro's and con's of the long rifle and the short version ?. I will stick my neck out now and say ,if you are going to use it at night go for .177 ks or kt , reason being range at night and with a shorter gun less likley to get knocked Thats my oppinion and many other to , But you could still go for a .22 1 Quote Link to post
Durham John 693 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Mitch please let me know the outcome of the 7.9 express mate - cheers. Mac 28yds is "middle or central stitch " 35 yds is "one stitch up" 40 yds is " 0ne and a half stitches up" The rest is " out of fecking range" If at night Mark,By the time you get to the second stitch you risk dropping your first loop Lol Edited cos I got fat fingers and typing on me mobile lol Edited July 25, 2015 by Durham John Quote Link to post
treecreeper 1,136 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) 22 bigger pellet harder hitting and for proper shooters as 177 is only used by shooters who like to think they can shoot :whistling: atvbmac IT's NOT harder hitting , if both .177 and .22 pellets are hitting the target @6ft/lb ,thats 6 ft/lb for both , mac are you having a blonde moment sorry to confuse vwman but mac is correct .22 does hit harder. Power is not as simple as the ft lb reading that's just the velocity at the muzzle. a .22 running exactly the same power as a .177 in ft lb at the muzzle and identical pellets just bigger the .22 will retain more power down range due to the ballistic coefficient being roughly 25% better. larger pellet holds more energy down range, heavier pellets carry more momentum even in the same power either way both are capable if you can put the pellet where it counts Edited July 25, 2015 by treecreeper 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 22 bigger pellet harder hitting and for proper shooters as 177 is only used by shooters who like to think they can shoot :whistling: atvbmac IT's NOT harder hitting , if both .177 and .22 pellets are hitting the target @6ft/lb ,thats 6 ft/lb for both , mac are you having a blonde moment sorry to confuse vwman but mac is correct .22 does hit harder. Power is not as simple as the ft lb reading that's just the velocity at the muzzle. a .22 running exactly the same power as a .177 in ft lb at the muzzle and identical pellets just bigger the .22 will retain more power down range due to the ballistic coefficient being roughly 25% better. larger pellet holds more energy down range, heavier pellets carry more momentum even in the same power either way both are capable if you can put the pellet where it counts Spot on thats what i was thinking but did not no how to put it in writing SO THATS YOU ALL TOLD HA HA HA cheers TC atvbmac Quote Link to post
mark williams 7,568 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 A topic named "salad farm" featured a great thread from VM and energy retention down range. Basically an Air Arms 7.9 grain pellet shits all over all others in every dep`t, even a 10.3 grain jumbo. Take a look for yourselves,- i am seriously thinking of going to 7.9 express with my rifles. Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,828 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 A topic named "salad farm" featured a great thread from VM and energy retention down range. Basically an Air Arms 7.9 grain pellet shits all over all others in every dep`t, even a 10.3 grain jumbo. Take a look for yourselves,- i am seriously thinking of going to 7.9 express with my rifles. Here go all the excuses now TC but , but , but , but , but 177 is but, but, but but WE ALL NO 22 IS BEST atvbmac :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
treecreeper 1,136 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 I never said that Quote Link to post
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