thursodog 353 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Ok. Sorry senior moment for me as they are sleeves not liners. Are you sure there is no sleave in the piston? If you look at the piston slot can you see the spring or is it metal. Normally they have the makers sleeve inside. Chris Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Ok. Sorry senior moment for me as they are sleeves not liners. Are you sure there is no sleave in the piston? If you look at the piston slot can you see the spring or is it metal. Normally they have the makers sleeve inside. Chris Yes, 100% mate. There is no sleeve. Spring and piston. No sleeve. As an edit, what makers might you know that install and fit a sleeve as standard? I know v-mach supplies one for there kits... but HW/AA doesn't. Quote Link to post
thursodog 353 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 The V-mach sleeve is very slim to fit inside the maker. I will have a look to see if I have a makers one in my stuff 1 Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 The V-mach sleeve is very slim to fit inside the maker. I will have a look to see if I have a makers one in my stuff It's for my PS though man... The v-Mach gear is in my HW. Anyway, have a look and if you can sort us one out, I'll pay pal you about £1.50 for it and postage of course Quote Link to post
thursodog 353 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Getting lost here dude. Do you have a V-MACH piston sleeve already. I understand you need a weihrauch sleeve. Both in the piston works well with a V-mach spring. £1.50?? ;-) Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Has any one got photo's of the parts for hw95 and 77. I can see there is a piston in the main body of the 95. Then on the 77 there is a piston in a cylinder tube that moves in the main body, what is that bit called and what is a liner ?. I can see by having a quick look around that there are some aftermarket parts but I have also seen that the said parts have been fitted and removed because the owners have not liked them because of poor quality. On a good quality gun you want same or better quality to improve the rifles. It's good to get quality parts at a fair price but it's no good paying top price for sub standard parts, you guys know as you have give me sound advice so far. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 VWman, I have a Vortek PGR2 kit in a 77, it increased power, reduced noise and recoil too. They are not too badly priced and provided you can get your 77 apart (think mine was loctited) you can get it in easily enough. The trigger on my 77 was great anyway so I did not bother fiddling with it! Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 VWman, I have a Vortek PGR2 kit in a 77, it increased power, reduced noise and recoil too. They are not too badly priced and provided you can get your 77 apart (think mine was loctited) you can get it in easily enough. The trigger on my 77 was great anyway so I did not bother fiddling with it! Thanks I will check that out, Have you got any photo's ? Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 http://www.agrtuning.co.uk/about-vortek-products.html American made kits..... Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 http://www.agrtuning.co.uk/about-vortek-products.html American made kits..... Who stocks them mole ? Quote Link to post
Rez 4,961 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Getting lost here dude. Do you have a V-MACH piston sleeve already. I understand you need a weihrauch sleeve. Both in the piston works well with a V-mach spring. £1.50?? ;-) Yes, I do, its in my 97. I need a sleeve making for my PS. Pro Sport. Air Arms. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 http://www.agrtuning.co.uk/about-vortek-products.html American made kits..... Who stocks them mole ? AGR tuning, you go to his website on that link! Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Ok so there seems to be quite a few drop in spring kits but what about the actual tuning of the parts with regard to total seal ? Quote Link to post
thursodog 353 Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Best not to touch the cylinder bore as it's usually fine. I have a hone fitted to my Boxford as my fac had a tight spot in the cylinder bore. I size tight piston seals on the lathe with fine emery glued to a flat faced tool fixed in the tool post. It's a case of a little buff then try till its sliding nicely in the cylinder. The lathe is great for really precise sizing. I also use it for polishing trigger sears as I can fix the at their correct angle and hone their faces very accurately. I still think the trigger tune is over looked sometimes. Makes a huge difference to a springers accuracy if done right and set about 2 pounds. c Quote Link to post
VWman 232 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Hello there When you say ..... usually ok, do weihrauch hone them at the factory and can you see the actual hone marks. When I was thinking it through like a classic bike blue print it was one of the first things that I thought may be overlooked in mass production. Like any black art there seems to be a mixture of technical know how and personal preference mixed up with a bit of tuner personality and end user loyalties and bigging up. I like the fact that some of the youtube .....er's have fitted one kit and then taken it out and tried another one and shared the things that have not worked. Quote Link to post
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