Remembering Gallipoli

[Blackbriar 8,569]

In honour of the thousands of brave men who lost their lives, today marks the 100th anniversary of one of World War 1's most disastrous campaigns.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/the-national-commemoration-of-the-centenary-of-the-gallipoli-and-anzac-campaigns

 

 

Rest in peace, gentlemen.

[Born Hunter 17,910]

Estimates vary but 34'000 Brits dead and 78'000 wounded in an 8 month conflict........................ that's just Britons.......

 

French, Ozzies, Kiwis, Indians also suffered similarly.

 

And people think that the world is bad today........ The death tolls in the great wars and their campaigns is just unimaginable by todays standards. A conflict like that would pretty much end our military today. I think it's important to put things like this into perspective in such a way to truly get even a small understanding of the scale of such historical events.

Edited April 24, 2015 by Born Hunter

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RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

 

Lions lead by donkeys

[bobcullen79 1,495]

R.I.P.

 

Watched this last night. Worth a watch. Not one for action junkies mind... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3007512/

[Born Hunter 17,910]

RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

 

Lions lead by donkeys

 

I don't think that that is entirely fair. This was a time when it was common place for the 'elite' to serve their country. And before you say from the safety of an officers quarters, I believe I am right in saying that the Etonian Alumni suffered more than their fair share of deaths and casualties in the first world war, reflecting society of the day.

 

Human life was pretty cheap at that time.

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RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

 

Lions lead by donkeys

 

I don't think that that is entirely fair. This was a time when it was common place for the 'elite' to serve their country. And before you say from the safety of an officers quarters, I believe I am right in saying that the Etonian Alumni suffered more than their fair share of deaths and casualties in the first world war, reflecting society of the day.

 

Human life was pretty cheap at that time.

 

 

Actually you're right that wasn't fair, plenty of the upper classes died alongside the working classes in WW1.

 

All different these days though, how many politicians sons died in Iraq/Afghan?

[Born Hunter 17,910]

Actually you're right that wasn't fair, plenty of the upper classes died alongside the working classes in WW1.

 

All different these days though, how many politicians sons died in Iraq/Afghan?

 

 

Very different times. I know of a few politicians sons who have/do serve but couldn't make a fair comparison. Society is different, war is different, politics is different...... It's hard to imagine the scale and loss of campaigns like Gallipoli, D-day etc.

 

I'm not meaning to take anything away from 21stC soldiers, I'm sure things like picking up bits of your mates from the shitty desert is just as harrowing as it was in 1915 for the individual soldier. Just the scale of conflict these days is different. As a society we just can't compare the likes of 13 years in Afghan, for example, to the great wars.

 

For instance, more Brits died on one beach on D-Day than in the entire Afghan conflict........

 

8 months of Gallipoli completely eclipses that.

 

Edited April 24, 2015 by Born Hunter

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RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

 

Lions lead by donkeys

 

I don't think that that is entirely fair. This was a time when it was common place for the 'elite' to serve their country. And before you say from the safety of an officers quarters, I believe I am right in saying that the Etonian Alumni suffered more than their fair share of deaths and casualties in the first world war, reflecting society of the day.

 

Human life was pretty cheap at that time.

 

 

Actually you're right that wasn't fair, plenty of the upper classes died alongside the working classes in WW1.

 

All different these days though, how many politicians sons died in Iraq/Afghan?

 

 

Very different times. I know of a few politicians sons who have/do serve but couldn't make a fair comparison. Society is different, war is different, politics is different...... It's hard to imagine the scale and loss of campaigns like Gallipoli, D-day etc.

 

I'm not meaning to take anything away from 21stC soldiers, I'm sure things like picking up bits of your mates from the shitty desert is just as harrowing as it was in 1915 for the individual soldier. Just the scale of conflict these days is different. As a society we just can't compare the likes of 13 years in Afghan to the great wars.

 

For instance, more Brits died on one beach on D-Day than in the entire Afghan conflict........

 

8 months of Gallipoli completely eclipses that.

 

 

Yep the wars back then were real meat grinders my Granda on my mothers side signed up with a big group of mates and he was the only one to make it home, totally decimated the male population of his village, as it did many others. You just don't get war on that scale these days, thank God.

[Truther 1,579]

 

 

 

 

RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

 

Lions lead by donkeys

 

I don't think that that is entirely fair. This was a time when it was common place for the 'elite' to serve their country. And before you say from the safety of an officers quarters, I believe I am right in saying that the Etonian Alumni suffered more than their fair share of deaths and casualties in the first world war, reflecting society of the day.

 

Human life was pretty cheap at that time.

 

 

Actually you're right that wasn't fair, plenty of the upper classes died alongside the working classes in WW1.

 

All different these days though, how many politicians sons died in Iraq/Afghan?

 

 

Very different times. I know of a few politicians sons who have/do serve but couldn't make a fair comparison. Society is different, war is different, politics is different...... It's hard to imagine the scale and loss of campaigns like Gallipoli, D-day etc.

 

I'm not meaning to take anything away from 21stC soldiers, I'm sure things like picking up bits of your mates from the shitty desert is just as harrowing as it was in 1915 for the individual soldier. Just the scale of conflict these days is different. As a society we just can't compare the likes of 13 years in Afghan to the great wars.

 

For instance, more Brits died on one beach on D-Day than in the entire Afghan conflict........

 

8 months of Gallipoli completely eclipses that.

 

 

Yep the wars back then were real meat grinders my Granda on my mothers side signed up with a big group of mates and he was the only one to make it home, totally decimated the male population of his village, as it did many others. You just don't get war on that scale these days, thank God.

 

 

Just a temporary reprieve, we'll get back to the mass slaughter of the poor eventually

[desertbred 5,490]

The first world war was supposed to have been the war to end all wars. The loss of life was beyond comparison , it was brutal conflict the trenches must have been unbearable. The men who fought in that war as with soldiers who put their lives on the line in any conflict are truly the best of the best. May be one day it will be war is not the answer who Knows. I salute all the soldiers past and present and RIP to those who didnt survive their particular conflict.

Edited April 24, 2015 by desertbred

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RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

Lions lead by donkeys

 

I don't think that that is entirely fair. This was a time when it was common place for the 'elite' to serve their country. And before you say from the safety of an officers quarters, I believe I am right in saying that the Etonian Alumni suffered more than their fair share of deaths and casualties in the first world war, reflecting society of the day.

 

Human life was pretty cheap at that time.

Actually you're right that wasn't fair, plenty of the upper classes died alongside the working classes in WW1.

 

All different these days though, how many politicians sons died in Iraq/Afghan?

Very different times. I know of a few politicians sons who have/do serve but couldn't make a fair comparison. Society is different, war is different, politics is different...... It's hard to imagine the scale and loss of campaigns like Gallipoli, D-day etc.

 

I'm not meaning to take anything away from 21stC soldiers, I'm sure things like picking up bits of your mates from the shitty desert is just as harrowing as it was in 1915 for the individual soldier. Just the scale of conflict these days is different. As a society we just can't compare the likes of 13 years in Afghan to the great wars.

 

For instance, more Brits died on one beach on D-Day than in the entire Afghan conflict........

 

8 months of Gallipoli completely eclipses that.

Yep the wars back then were real meat grinders my Granda on my mothers side signed up with a big group of mates and he was the only one to make it home, totally decimated the male population of his village, as it did many others. You just don't get war on that scale these days, thank God.

Just a temporary reprieve, we'll get back to the mass slaughter of the poor eventually

Maybe, if all nuclear weapons have some day gone the way of the dodo. Until that time, conflicts between major powers will be proxy skirmishes and wars of economy IMO..

[Born Hunter 17,910]

 

Maybe, if all nuclear weapons have some day gone the way of the dodo. Until that time, conflicts between major powers will be proxy skirmishes and wars of economy IMO..

 

 

[Truther 1,579]

 

 

 

 

 

 

RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

Lions lead by donkeys

I don't think that that is entirely fair. This was a time when it was common place for the 'elite' to serve their country. And before you say from the safety of an officers quarters, I believe I am right in saying that the Etonian Alumni suffered more than their fair share of deaths and casualties in the first world war, reflecting society of the day.

 

Human life was pretty cheap at that time.

Actually you're right that wasn't fair, plenty of the upper classes died alongside the working classes in WW1.

 

All different these days though, how many politicians sons died in Iraq/Afghan?

Very different times. I know of a few politicians sons who have/do serve but couldn't make a fair comparison. Society is different, war is different, politics is different...... It's hard to imagine the scale and loss of campaigns like Gallipoli, D-day etc.

 

I'm not meaning to take anything away from 21stC soldiers, I'm sure things like picking up bits of your mates from the shitty desert is just as harrowing as it was in 1915 for the individual soldier. Just the scale of conflict these days is different. As a society we just can't compare the likes of 13 years in Afghan to the great wars.

 

For instance, more Brits died on one beach on D-Day than in the entire Afghan conflict........

 

8 months of Gallipoli completely eclipses that.

Yep the wars back then were real meat grinders my Granda on my mothers side signed up with a big group of mates and he was the only one to make it home, totally decimated the male population of his village, as it did many others. You just don't get war on that scale these days, thank God.

Just a temporary reprieve, we'll get back to the mass slaughter of the poor eventually

Maybe, if all nuclear weapons have some day gone the way of the dodo. Until that time, conflicts between major powers will be proxy skirmishes and wars of economy IMO..

 

 

They'll never use them Malt, anyone who has the capability is governed by the same people, they wont let loose and destroy what they control or its over for them mate, they'll send the sheep in A couple of exceptions maybe, N. Korea, Israel if it gets over run, but the Yanks would be there with conventional in the blink of an eye, and some nut job muslim nation couldn't be trusted not to let loose i suppose........Conventional mass slaughter's way from over yet mate imo. Not to mention the enemy living among us and growing stronger at an alarming rate, can't nuke your own doorstep

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RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

Lions lead by donkeys

 

I don't think that that is entirely fair. This was a time when it was common place for the 'elite' to serve their country. And before you say from the safety of an officers quarters, I believe I am right in saying that the Etonian Alumni suffered more than their fair share of deaths and casualties in the first world war, reflecting society of the day.

 

Human life was pretty cheap at that time.

Actually you're right that wasn't fair, plenty of the upper classes died alongside the working classes in WW1.

 

All different these days though, how many politicians sons died in Iraq/Afghan?

Very different times. I know of a few politicians sons who have/do serve but couldn't make a fair comparison. Society is different, war is different, politics is different...... It's hard to imagine the scale and loss of campaigns like Gallipoli, D-day etc.

 

I'm not meaning to take anything away from 21stC soldiers, I'm sure things like picking up bits of your mates from the shitty desert is just as harrowing as it was in 1915 for the individual soldier. Just the scale of conflict these days is different. As a society we just can't compare the likes of 13 years in Afghan to the great wars.

 

For instance, more Brits died on one beach on D-Day than in the entire Afghan conflict........

 

8 months of Gallipoli completely eclipses that.

Yep the wars back then were real meat grinders my Granda on my mothers side signed up with a big group of mates and he was the only one to make it home, totally decimated the male population of his village, as it did many others. You just don't get war on that scale these days, thank God.

 

For many years, my home town of Nottingham had a reputation of having 7 women for every man. The discrepancy between the sexes was down to the massive casualties of two World Wars (though I don't believe it was actually ever more than 3 to 1 !)

 

Still puts it into some perspective.........

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RIP all who lost their lives on those shores, heroes to a man. Its just a shame the so called "elite" that planned the attack were so incompetent, though its easy to rush in to hare brained schemes when its not your sons putting their lives on the line.

Lions lead by donkeys

 

I don't think that that is entirely fair. This was a time when it was common place for the 'elite' to serve their country. And before you say from the safety of an officers quarters, I believe I am right in saying that the Etonian Alumni suffered more than their fair share of deaths and casualties in the first world war, reflecting society of the day.

 

Human life was pretty cheap at that time.

Actually you're right that wasn't fair, plenty of the upper classes died alongside the working classes in WW1.

 

All different these days though, how many politicians sons died in Iraq/Afghan?

Very different times. I know of a few politicians sons who have/do serve but couldn't make a fair comparison. Society is different, war is different, politics is different...... It's hard to imagine the scale and loss of campaigns like Gallipoli, D-day etc.

 

I'm not meaning to take anything away from 21stC soldiers, I'm sure things like picking up bits of your mates from the shitty desert is just as harrowing as it was in 1915 for the individual soldier. Just the scale of conflict these days is different. As a society we just can't compare the likes of 13 years in Afghan to the great wars.

 

For instance, more Brits died on one beach on D-Day than in the entire Afghan conflict........

 

8 months of Gallipoli completely eclipses that.

Yep the wars back then were real meat grinders my Granda on my mothers side signed up with a big group of mates and he was the only one to make it home, totally decimated the male population of his village, as it did many others. You just don't get war on that scale these days, thank God.

For many years, my home town of Nottingham had a reputation of having 7 women for every man. The discrepancy between the sexes was down to the massive casualties of two World Wars (though I don't believe it was actually ever more than 3 to 1 !)

 

Still puts it into some perspective.........

Sure some small villages never fully recovered, a whole generation of young working men wiped out