Joe1888 672 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Lol Joe, the UK has a strong economy, the debt and cuts are neither here nor there. If you have a strong economy then there is money to be had, the Russians will rapidly run out if they don't sort something out. But that's missing the point entirely, if you think the Russians can steam roll the UK then you haven't the foggiest of our or their capabilities. Do you honestly think flying age old bears and frigates around the UK is the slightest threat to our forces? I dont believe the uk is doing as great as many think. nothing new there... if russia wanted to make a threat, its more than capable.. its taking the piss, as mentioned above they have been doing this for sometime now. i remember the fleet that the had ships scrambling 24 hours into scottish waters,other russian ships and the other air craft... Edited February 20, 2015 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Lol Joe, the UK has a strong economy, the debt and cuts are neither here nor there. If you have a strong economy then there is money to be had, the Russians will rapidly run out if they don't sort something out. But that's missing the point entirely, if you think the Russians can steam roll the UK then you haven't the foggiest of our or their capabilities. Do you honestly think flying age old bears and frigates around the UK is the slightest threat to our forces?I've been looking at some other aticals and head of RAF reakons Russia could squash our defences before we could react. Yep, he was talking about a conventional air strike, a saturation attack where the Russians send everything they have got to bomb the UK. We haven't the air defence to defend against that sort of attack... However... that's not 'steam rollering' the UK. That's one strike which we would probably not completely defend ourselves against. If that strike was the beginning of total war or invasion then we have 4 boats ready to rain hell on them. But an invasion is another scenario again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Lol Joe, the UK has a strong economy, the debt and cuts are neither here nor there. If you have a strong economy then there is money to be had, the Russians will rapidly run out if they don't sort something out. But that's missing the point entirely, if you think the Russians can steam roll the UK then you haven't the foggiest of our or their capabilities. Do you honestly think flying age old bears and frigates around the UK is the slightest threat to our forces? I dont believe the uk is doing as great as many think. nothing new there... if russia wanted to make a threat, its more than capable.. its taking the piss, as mentioned above they have been doing this for sometime now. i remember the fleet that the had ships scrambling 24 hours into scottish waters,other russian ships and the other air craft... Shocker, you don't believe the UK economy is doing well. That doesn't suit your politics at all! Lol If Russia wanted to threaten us of course they could, I haven't denied that. What you don't seem to understand is that I'm saying we are still capable of responding to that threat sufficiently to defend our sovereign territory from being "steam rolled" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Lol Joe, the UK has a strong economy, the debt and cuts are neither here nor there. If you have a strong economy then there is money to be had, the Russians will rapidly run out if they don't sort something out. But that's missing the point entirely, if you think the Russians can steam roll the UK then you haven't the foggiest of our or their capabilities. Do you honestly think flying age old bears and frigates around the UK is the slightest threat to our forces?I dont believe the uk is doing as great as many think. nothing new there... if russia wanted to make a threat, its more than capable.. its taking the piss, as mentioned above they have been doing this for sometime now. i remember the fleet that the had ships scrambling 24 hours into scottish waters,other russian ships and the other air craft... Shocker, you don't believe the UK economy is doing well. That doesn't suit your politics at all! Lol If Russia wanted to threaten us of course they could, I haven't denied that. What you don't seem to understand is that I'm saying we are still capable of responding to that threat sufficiently to defend our sovereign territory from being "steam rolled" each to there own mate, once again we wont agree only out come i can see is mother russia crushing uk if it came to it, in my opinion those who think otherwise still believe in that brittish stuff of along time ago, those days are long gone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Lol and in my opinion those that think as you do believe all the hype without ever actually looking into each militaries capability and the strategic picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fieldsporthunter 1,864 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Check this out!!! http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=united-kingdom&country2=russia&Submit=COMPARE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) LOL, was just looking at there. google is your friend Edited February 21, 2015 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fieldsporthunter 1,864 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 19 guest lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,960 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Joe you can hardly compare raw numbers like one destroyer is completely equal to another! Like a conscript force is equal to a professional force! Lol. What's their expeditionary capability? Strategically what would they have to achieve prior to an invasion? How could they do that? How are they going to support an invasion force in the UK? How are they going to neutralise our Vanguard boats? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 How many would support a war against Russia? I don't see Russians telling us to change the way we live. If we was to go to war with Russia itll be purely for our rich to earn more money. Maybe itll happen in the future they certainly seem to want to paint Russia in the bad light at the moment on the news. Go abroad to fight wars mean while our country is being raped from the inside and f**k all is being done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,589 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) How many would support a war against Russia? I don't see Russians telling us to change the way we live. If we was to go to war with Russia itll be purely for our rich to earn more money. Maybe itll happen in the future they certainly seem to want to paint Russia in the bad light at the moment on the news. Go abroad to fight wars mean while our country is being raped from the inside and f**k all is being done. Agree with you shit loads goin wrong in our own country but Russia won't be content with just stamping all n takin over the Ukraine.. Edited February 21, 2015 by dodger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Cant see us going to war with Russia to be honest, I think Putin just puffing his chest out, he turns his nose our way and smells weakness, he knows we cant afford another threat of war, all just posturing, lets face it the whole world was all up for war when it came to Kuwait Iraq (Oil), but all of a sudden the likes of Isis stood sticking two fingers up at the whole civilised world , cutting off heads of people of every culture creed religion colour and nationality, whilst all the worlds mighty leaders stand around citing reasons not to do anything, I wonder why, surely human life is of more value than Oil we did not even own or end up owning? and people wonder why Putin dare do this lol what's to be scared of for him?, he is a soldier who has restored some form of pride to a once great nation, his people respect him, our leaders are gutless and we all hate them 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,589 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 The whole world is f****d money politics n mostly religion be ww111 before our times up for sure.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 And if this info is what someone in the public can find out i imagine there is alot more powerful people who'd benefit from war.... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodger 3,589 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Check this out!!! http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.asp?form=form&country1=united-kingdom&country2=russia&Submit=COMPARE Pissin against the wind.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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