Thoughts On This Rifle

[Springer89 5]

Really intrested in this hammerli black force blackout ive tried and tested and very impressed im looking to purchase soon once ive sold my bsa Mercury challenger have any one on here used the hammerli and have any

Reviews on it?

[charlie caller 3,654]

There you go pal.

[Rez 4,961]

Looks a bit cheap imo. However, I have been one to be judging a book by its cover only to take it all back. Maybe in this case, its not the looks, its what it can do.

 

Love the reflex mod thing going on as a second thought.

[charlie caller 3,654]

http://woodfield-gcp.co.uk/?product=remington-xp

Personally for £180 this looks very good and is getting some good reviews, he even does a tuning kit for it, I think that is where I would spend my £.

[Springer89 5]

I do like Remington I recently had a go on the express bit of a kick to it but precision shooting once you get the feel of it the only bit I didn't like was the light wood but the one you posted well that is nice

[charlie caller 3,654]

And if you get the tuning kit for it, do a bit of polishing, and a proper lube, it will be smoooooth as, think that would make a very nice rifle, with a bit of elbow grease the machining looks good, 2 stage trigger and a proper barrel catch arangement, like a hw, not a bloody steel pin like BSA still insist on using.

[Rimfireboy! 1,463]

I used a hammerli side lever in the seventies. It was well made but not very powerful. The new ones a probably good if they come from the same factory?

[charlie caller 3,654]

But the Hammerli side lever you used in the 70s was not made in China, as you say they were not that powerful, but the build quality was very good, and if memory serves, were a swiss company, owned now I believe by Norica in Spain. That black thing in the video, is made in China, uuuuur.

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Thought that they were Chinese!

 

Now owned by Walther and licensed to Umarex USA!

Edited January 20, 2015 by secretagentmole

[Rimfireboy! 1,463]

But the Hammerli side lever you used in the 70s was not made in China, as you say they were not that powerful, but the build quality was very good, and if memory serves, were a swiss company, owned now I believe by Norica in Spain. That black thing in the video, is made in China, uuuuur.

Hmm, I didn't realise that. I probably wouldn't go for that then. I used to like the old German stuff like BSF, Feinwerkbau, Weihrauch's etc.

[Blackbriar 8,569]

 

But the Hammerli side lever you used in the 70s was not made in China, as you say they were not that powerful, but the build quality was very good, and if memory serves, were a swiss company, owned now I believe by Norica in Spain. That black thing in the video, is made in China, uuuuur.

Hmm, I didn't realise that. I probably wouldn't go for that then. I used to like the old German stuff like BSF, Feinwerkbau, Weihrauch's etc.

I don't think you can hold the fact that it's made in China against it. So much is these days, after all !

 

My first rifle was a Stoeger - I may be wrong on the exact details, but it's something like made in Turkey, to a Chinese design while Stoeger itself is owned by Benelli which is in turn owned by Beretta. (Confused ? Me too !)

[Rimfireboy! 1,463]

 

 

But the Hammerli side lever you used in the 70s was not made in China, as you say they were not that powerful, but the build quality was very good, and if memory serves, were a swiss company, owned now I believe by Norica in Spain. That black thing in the video, is made in China, uuuuur.

Hmm, I didn't realise that. I probably wouldn't go for that then. I used to like the old German stuff like BSF, Feinwerkbau, Weihrauch's etc.

I don't think you can hold the fact that it's made in China against it. So much is these days, after all !

My first rifle was a Stoeger - I may be wrong on the exact details, but it's something like made in Turkey, to a Chinese design while Stoeger itself is owned by Benelli which is in turn owned by Beretta. (Confused ? Me too !)

True, Chinese made stuff is probably a lot better than it used to be. I've got a Chinese co2 gas rifle and for the price I paid, it's fairly good. It works well enough anyway for what it is.

[charlie caller 3,654]

 

But the Hammerli side lever you used in the 70s was not made in China, as you say they were not that powerful, but the build quality was very good, and if memory serves, were a swiss company, owned now I believe by Norica in Spain. That black thing in the video, is made in China, uuuuur.

Hmm, I didn't realise that. I probably wouldn't go for that then. I used to like the old German stuff like BSF, Feinwerkbau, Weihrauch's etc.

 

Ahhhh BSF now you are talking, it still makes me go all misty eyed, when I think about my tuned BSF b55 Bavaria I had in the 80s, if there is one air rifle I wish I had never sold, that is the one, I killed dozens and dozens of squirrels, pigeons, and a good few bunnies with that rifle, I would buy one tomorrow if it came up.

[Rimfireboy! 1,463]

 

 

But the Hammerli side lever you used in the 70s was not made in China, as you say they were not that powerful, but the build quality was very good, and if memory serves, were a swiss company, owned now I believe by Norica in Spain. That black thing in the video, is made in China, uuuuur.

 

Hmm, I didn't realise that. I probably wouldn't go for that then. I used to like the old German stuff like BSF, Feinwerkbau, Weihrauch's etc.

Ahhhh BSF now you are talking, it still makes me go all misty eyed, when I think about my tuned BSF b55 Bavaria I had in the 80s, if there is one air rifle I wish I had never sold, that is the one, I killed dozens and dozens of squirrels, pigeons, and a good few bunnies with that rifle, I would buy one tomorrow if it came up.

Those BSF's were well engineered. I had a custom B55 and sold it in the early nineties to help fund a Theoben sirocco, which I still have. I wish I still had the BSF as well though. Of all the airguns I've had and sold over the years, that's the one that I most regret selling and I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. Fond memories of the best 'mechanical' air rifle I've owned and I know that if I still had it now, it would still be as sweet as ever.

[charlie caller 3,654]

Totally agree mate, brilliant rifles, I traded mine in for a Sharp innova I think, due to them being all the rage in our little shooting group :cray:I will get another B55 one day, and go to town on it, a full tune, trigger job, barrel chop screwcut and moderator, and maybe a custom stock, I reckon Sandwell field sports could transform one into a similar package as the HW99 Imp, which is probably as close as you can get in a modern rifle, I honestly do think I shot more stuff with my BSFthan with my .22 rimfire, it was a belter.