Butchering A .410 For My Nephew?

[air gun ant 1,666]

I'm thinking of looking for a cheap .410 for my (nearly) 7 yr old nephew to start teaching him basic gun safety and shooting. He's already mad on fishing with me, but with him having a pet rabbit and being a bit soft at the moment I dar'nt take him ferreting lol so thought I could have some fun with him this summer on clays and pigeons, crows etc and really drumming in the basics. Then come October next year get him in the beating line and then beaters day etc with a few walk arounds in between.

Now he's not a big lad (yet) and I know people chop the stocks a bit to fit the younger lads better. But how much? How do you measure it and how fast am I going to need to buy another! Also what about the barrel/s? Obviously can't go less than 24" but if you do cut the barrels, can you still get them choked? Tapped out for multi-choke? Not that it would really matter lol

Does anybody have a "junior" .410 available? There must be a few about that have been grown out of...?

Cheers lads

Atb for Christmas

Ant

[air gun ant 1,666]

Ps.. I'm not after a freebie here lol just a project to do for his birthday (June) can't afford owt at the moment because "uncle knobhead" has already bought him a motorbike for Christmas lol

[beast 1,884]

http://ingunowners.com/forums/long-guns/163617-smallest-410-shotgun-kids.html

 

dont know if any of this is of interest

[Jax13 251]

the problem with a lot of 410's is they are full choke, obviously this means small patterns which are harder to learn with.

 

maybe keep your eyes open for something else - i saw a double trigger non ejector o/u 16bore a month or two back, in nice condition too and it was only £175 (nearly bought it myself had i not been walking out with an o/u lincoln 12 and a wmr!) something like that chopped sensibly (so the chopped bit can be stuck back on again) would last him through till his first ticket easily and also be easier to sell on if it wasnt wanted where a shortened single 410 could be trickier to get rid of.

 

my lad is only 3 but i am already planning on gifting him his great, great uncles sbs 16 bore for his 16th if he decides he wants his own ticket etc. its a nice compact little number which will not be getting molested to fit him at a younger age! my plan is to start him off on static clays stuffed in the hedge (or pound shop green army men when he gets his eye in!) but using the 9mm then get him onto a single 16 / 20 (ideally a folder) that can become my walkabout gun for bouncing around in the tractor or taking out ferreting 'just in case'

[paulus 26]

buy a single 20, cut the stock and get some 21g carts

[nasher1 258]

Motorbike and shotgun sounds like your trying to get rid of the little fella. Why don't you get a small air rifle to start him off on gun safety i don't want to be the fly in the ointment but 6 going on 7 years old seems a bit young, start him too early and the big bang can really put them off. it's good he likes his fishing and hopefully it will lead to a life of field sports. Atb Roy

[air gun ant 1,666]

Motorbike and shotgun sounds like your trying to get rid of the little fella. Why don't you get a small air rifle to start him off on gun safety i don't want to be the fly in the ointment but 6 going on 7 years old seems a bit young, start him too early and the big bang can really put them off. it's good he likes his fishing and hopefully it will lead to a life of field sports. Atb Roy

ive got an air rifle for him to lol i was thinking a little .410 because it easier for him to grasp that he needs to show the gun is safe and empty before crossing any obsticles etc and that he shouldnt walk around with a closed gun, muzzle awarness etc that i think might be a bit harder with an air rifle. i agree he might be a bit young yet, but theres no harm in being organised lol im going to take him beating a couple of times after new year and see what he thinks of it.

edited to add. he will not have a cartridge anywhere near the gun untill i give him something to shoot at, and then he will be closely supervised.

Edited December 23, 2014 by air gun ant

[paulus 26]

my youngest was shooting a 410 age five but soon went over to a 20 with light loads, any mistakes hit them with it, they learn quickly

[John Stott 202]

I agree with Nasher, the noise is a big factor at that age. Also the ears are still developing. I would stick with a single shot air rifle myself.