Ads 39 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Can anybody tell me if these are ok to use or would it be detrimental to a pup in the future? Basically my pups four and a half months and he lives out the back. He barks when he's trying to play with the other dog but because it's light a lot later now, he does it most of the night. Now, I could cope with it and wait till he grows out of it but it's the neighbours I'm more bothered about because it is getting a bit much recently. So, do I use it or not? I don't want to ruin any future training in any way. Thanks for any info, Adam Quote Link to post
lurcherman 887 13,445 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Mine does same at moment stops as soon as its dark aslong as it not all night i wouldnt worry. Go round neighbours and exsplain it wont last forever,,,shock collar for.adult.dogs.ok but pups not sure?? Atb Quote Link to post
alan81 110 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 don't use a bark collar on a pup you'll destroy him. when he starts barking hit him in the face with a bucket of water and let a roar at him and when he barks again do the same again and again, after a few nights he'll shut up. 1 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Pups bark when they are playing, it's normal. Punishing him for being a pup, whether with water or a shock collar, will only damage his spirit, and your relationship with him. Some breeds bark more in play than others: Collies being one of them. Rather than punish, either confine him away from other dogs, where he can't see them or interact with them, with a big juicy bone to occupy his time, or bring him indoors in a crate at night. Make sure he has plenty of opportunity to use up his energy during the day, and don't let him run loose at night: you say he 'lives out the back': does that mean in kennel and run, or just loose in the garden? Quote Link to post
unlacedgecko 1,467 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Bark collars are fine if used correctly. Let the dog wear the collar a few days with no battery in so he doesn't associate it with a shock. The put a battery in and crack on. Usually cures them in a couple of days. All my wear collars in kennels and it hasn't affected their working abilities. Terriers still bay well and beddy whippet still yaps. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 He's talking about a four and a half month old pup FFS and it's barking while its playing, or wanting to play, not barking because it has heard something or trying to get out: I guess? That's how I understood it at any rate. Putting a shock collar on a playful pup of that age is plain wrong. 6 Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 He's talking about a four and a half month old pup FFS and it's barking while its playing, or wanting to play, not barking because it has heard something or trying to get out: I guess? That's how I understood it at any rate. Putting a shock collar on a playful pup of that age is plain wrong. Quote Link to post
Ads 39 Posted June 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Ok thanks skycat I'll not bother with the collar then and try bringing him in at nighttime, I didn't want to use the collar in the first place because I know it's only because he's a pup and he'll grow out of it but it was just the neighbours I was bothered about. He lives in a kennel with the run of the garden by the way Edited June 13, 2014 by Ads Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Best idea. By the way, young dogs are usually noisier the more space they have. I have a couple of young adult dogs who are kennelled at night because if they have the run of the place they are trying to play daft games in the middle of the night, barking at each other. In the kennel, with a small run in case they need a pee, they are as quiet as mice. Mine have learned that when they go in the kennel it is a place to lie down quietly, or else they get a cup of water thrown in their general direction. Never had any need to soak them, just told them sternly NO and they soon learned. They are not kennelled all the time, only at night and when I'm out at work in the mornings. 1 Quote Link to post
Hareydave 1,214 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 anti bark muzzle it stop any chewing aswell Quote Link to post
tjones3862 3,423 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) im not 1 for kenneling a dog,,, but i did snipe for the 1 st 9 month, then he come in the house,,, he yapped in the morning soon has hit got light,,,summer every ones window wide open,,, not good,,,,what i did and hit cured him, in the matter of days,,, was get the hose pipe positioned on the run just right,,,i have a longish garden,,,with the tap at arms reach,,,i timed hit just right,,,when he kicked off the tap went on,,,,,he never add a clue hit was me,,, so he did not fall out with me,,,,,,, snipe was 5 month when i was doing this,,,,,not what you call a puppy,,,, Edited June 13, 2014 by tjones3862 1 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 anti bark muzzle it stop any chewing aswell And that's plain cruel too if it's on a dog for any length of time. All these punishment 'remedies' never take into account a dog's needs. Dogs kennelled 23/7 need to be able to itch themselves, groom themselves, and chewing the kennel wouldn't happen if the dog got out more, got its needs met with proper exercise and had bones and things specifically for it to chew when it got bored. Dogs need to chew: helps to calm them, exercises their jaws and teeth, and it de-stresses them. And the kennel can be chew proofed. Quote Link to post
Hareydave 1,214 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 anti bark muzzle it stop any chewing aswell And that's plain cruel too if it's on a dog for any length of time. All these punishment 'remedies' never take into account a dog's needs. Dogs kennelled 23/7 need to be able to itch themselves, groom themselves, and chewing the kennel wouldn't happen if the dog got out more, got its needs met with proper exercise and had bones and things specifically for it to chew when it got bored. Dogs need to chew: helps to calm them, exercises their jaws and teeth, and it de-stresses them. And the kennel can be chew proofed. that all good in theory,it wouldn't matter if you a saluki out 18 hours a day it would spend the other 6 doing your head in chewing an digging. but im lucky having understanding neighbours that know there free to move on if the dogs annoy them Quote Link to post
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