Ukroosterman 548 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) I gave Charlie my tow cents.... Witch you proclaimed stupid?... You are right I've never read back yard flock.... Don't need to I'm not raiseing some laying hens in my back yard.... I breed gamefowl!... I've learn the hard way I've cured dozen of cocks/stags over the years and sent for every medication and drugs imaginable only to be let down when it counted with the same birds.... So I got rid of all them.... I treat for worms... Lice... And cocci anythink else gets the chop.... but like I seid I can see why that Mayt be hard you burnie.... How gonna sell them if there dead? Edited April 16, 2014 by Ukroosterman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 So do you kill all birds what get cocci? As for selling fowl the few people I know , Know the score, As for your little digs you keep digging the hole only ever gets deeper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ukroosterman 548 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Like I seid I medicate for cocci..... So I have no problams with it.... But if one shows symptoms he's culled.... And what hole is that?.. burnie you have either not been in this game very long and know no better..... Or your peddler who raises everythink he can.... Who's attitude is why would kill it when I can sell to someone else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Peddler , Greenhorn is stsrting to be your favourite saying are you one??????? As I've already stated who know me , know . So if your medicating for cocci are you precautionary treating or are you treating when you think you've got it. Your starting to contradict what your saying here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ukroosterman 548 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Precautionary I treat for cocci worms and lice that's it! Any fowl that look sick or I'll get culled! It's not rock Science now try get your head around it!.... So what do you do with all these birds witch are disease/I'll which you medicate to there well again? simple question lets here your answer! As any decent breeder knows if keep breed disease fowl they will only breed more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bullx100% 681 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 This Is for burnie and uk ....how do you both treat for cocci and mites and what age? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 You carry on precautionary medicating fella your that much of a expert you dont realise your doing more harm good. Another thing is your talking about diseases . Have you ever heard of secondary infections. You see this is caused by stress of the bird not being treated in the 1st place so gentically its bollocks about it being carried on with some diseases yes some will be in the egg but not all so this is were a little bit of advice on medicating comes handy. Cocci is a infection in the gut pick up by the bird out of the ground or dropping of another bird. Were and when does this go to the off spring. Uk I could go on but I'm making you look silly now. so peddler maybe not fella Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'll tell you what I do . I use a spray for mites its band in this country but you can get it from ireland called tack tick. Cocci can show its ugly head as early as 2 weeks old. But using cinder vinger in your water at 1ml per litre will reduce the chance no end. People who rear on the same pens year after year will be more prone to others. To be honest in chickens I haven't had it but in pheasants I have. Use baycox but its says on the bottle 1ml per litre thats a precautionary dose depending on the age it could be up to 2.5ml per litre. Get em out on the grass free roaming you'd be unlucky if you got it. But then again it depends how many you've got. Uou can tell alot from a birds droppings way before any other signs show. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Also I'll add I creosote my pens every year. Then spray with fi-cam W to eliminate anything what I've missed . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 17, 2014 Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 Precautionary I treat for cocci worms and lice that's it! Any fowl that look sick or I'll get culled! It's not rock Science now try get your head around it!.... So what do you do with all these birds witch are disease/I'll which you medicate to there well again? simple question lets here your answer! As any decent breeder knows if keep breed disease fowl they will only breed more So you cull if you get cocci?? You must like wasting money. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hatch28 240 Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Thats mycoplasma alright you can medicate but they will still have it there's no 100% cure and it can transfer true the eggs and infact thats the most common way its spread chicks hatch and appear healthy but if they get confined or overcrowed thats when it will show its ugly head its up to your self what you do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Totally agree hatch with the mycoplasma. That's if it is that there's 2-3 different diseases I know of what it could be just from what Charlie has described. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ukroosterman 548 Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 The only way to breed strong health fowl is to breed from brood fowl who's never had a sick day in there life...... starting from when they hatch... If cure ever chicken that gets sick what you gonna end up?..... you get some half wits on here who's read few books and think they now somethink.... Bookworms 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burnie69 376 Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Feck me thought you'd stop posting!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ukroosterman 548 Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 No burnie it just so happens I have some fowl what must be waterd and fed and taken care of....... I'm not some peddler...... Peddling bill roberts misfits.... Uk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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