Miners Strike And Me Itv Now

[The Seeker 3,048]

 

 

 

This was the beginning of Great Britain going to shit

Communities and helping one another was swept away for Thatchers I'm or right jack ' dog eat dog world.

The second instance was the Hunting Ban

After this labour thought we can do as we please

And they did bringing in statutes on a weekly basis to enslave the population.

We maybe have one more chance as a Nation

It's worth a shot

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well said max once she destroyed the unions with her propaganda ( much the same as the propaganda about coursers etc being spread by the police and bbc etc today) the working class were f****d .if the nation had come out at the time with the miners and brought her government down its a sure thing this country wouldnt be the shit hole it is today .

Wow.... You REALLY believe that if the unions had brought down the government we would be better off now? A country under complete influence of Union Rule. Why do you think Ed Millipede is trying to distance the Labour Party from them?

 

I remember all the strikes in the 70's early 80's the country was on its knees, people talk about greed but what about the greed of the unions, they were holding the country to ransom while the rest of the world were passing us by.

 

Oh by the way how's Scargill getting on with suing the Miners Union he so dearly fought for so he can have his free £34K per ann 2nd home in London, isnt this the same money paid in by the miners he claimed to represent 30 years ago?

 

give me an example of the unions ripping any one of or holding any one or the country to ransom i hear a few on here trumping that one out .well lets have some examples not just assumptions all im asking for is proof and bone fide examples as for the country on its knees there was work every where. our economy was the strongest it had ever been .production and exports were thriving we had a thriving coal industry and the steel industry was the best in the world .i to remember the miners strikes and the picket lines with soldiers dressed as filth hitting old men and women over the heads with batons outside roseheyworth and cwmtillery trying to protect theyre jobs and future for theyre families .whilst that bitch was having her barnet permed twice and three times a week at hundred quid a throw at the tax payers expense and securing arms deals abroad ( peddling death in third world countries for her ponce son ) .what about her taking every thing of us joe public once she broke the unions ? by taking it of us i mean privatising the energy companies .we owned them before thatcher do you remember ? we now have huge price hikes are forced to pay advanced line charges advanced vat which is also rising every year (talk about blackmail haha) how many of these energy companies are now owned by centrica ? did you know centrica is a french company ? a french company also own the severn bridge .all these billions in revenue is being taken by a foreign company then we have the privatisation on the waterboard .again massive massive profits and continued price hikes .privatisation of the railways and british telecom .a huge drop in standards with massive price increases much much higher than inflation .huge profits and bonuses to the board and increased hardship to the working man on top of that she then forced the poll tax onto us any one who refused to pay she had jailed .do you remember ? talk about blackmail and holding us to ransom . we also had thriving ship yards and harbours .we own none now these are all owned by foreigners .none of this would have happened if the unions had still been in place .now we have a country thats a shit hole the foreigner is taking over and getting priority over the local for any jobs or council house .most vacancies now are through an agency .nearly all these are foreign owned and controlled so whos getting priority ? now do you think for one minute with a strong union in place any of this would happen because i know it wouldnt .this is only a brief of what that bitch brought about .her actions lead to this change in our country .but please if you or any one could post some proof and examples of how the unions blackmailed this country and some one else mentioned they were KGB ffs id would like to see proof of these claims lol

 

 

You say "the economy was the strongest" ..really are you serious?? Inflation was at 30% YES 30% Even the labour government tried to put a cap of 5% wage increases on Unions why do you think the strikes happend in the 1st place? We had to be bailed out with BILLIONS from the IMF and that was in the late 70's how much is that worth today.

 

Seriously if you are going to wear the rose tinted glasses at least learn the history. Even the Labour prime minister Callaghan said the economy was so weak if he was a young man he would emigtrate! thats the prime minister FFS

 

Hospitals on strike taking only emergency patients, ambulances on strike, council grave diggers on strike whilst bodies of relatives laid in the morgue as they couldnt be buried, power cuts, bin men on strike streets full of rotting waste. If thats not hholding the country to ransom please let me know what is.

 

By the way most of my relatives worked in the steel industry so before you tell me i dont know what im on about I lived through sh*t like that.

 

 

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[WILF 49,559]

 

Twobob, I bet that were a size 7 cause they had run out if 9s as well.....don't tell me norman tebbit came and put a match to it ! Lol lol

Tiercel, "empathy for my fellow workers".......what a load of old bollocks.

Everyone's "empathy for fellow workers" extends about as far a Tesco when they buy some socks made by a 7 year old on 10p a day

Don't make me f*****g laugh

 

no size 8 and no it wasnt tebbit it wo them fxcking binmen back from their strike cleaning bxstard street

Size 8 !!!!!........f***ing show offs

I bet you even had shoes ! Lol

[Huan72 687]

Love her or loathe her at least she actually believed in what she was saying unlike todays turncoats who change colours with the wind. I think that this does in some way fall into a geographical divide, almost everyone that I have ever spoken to down here, that being the south coast have good memories of her. You have the military side of things and lets be honest at the time we needed a strong leader in all things military and you had the chance that people had to buy the council house that they were in. This I feel is a debate that will forever roll on because depending were you lived at the time will forever dictate your opinion of her.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Oh the king was in the all together the all together , she never ran the country she was a puppet for commitee 22 lol

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Oh the king was in the all together the all together , she never ran the country she was a puppet for commitee 22 lol

. And google just went mad lol

[The Seeker 3,048]

This I feel is a debate that will forever roll on because depending were you lived at the time will forever dictate your opinion of her.

But thats just it, I'm not going to go on and on about where Im from but I grew up on a council estate in a family that was poor and I was force fed all that sh*t for years growing up. My father went out on strike due to the Unions and (admittedly not for a year like the miners) we had no food for weeks and weeks. The street where we lived brought round cans of food to help feed us kids whilst my mom and dad lived on bread and jam.

 

The difference is it taught me a lesson, I learnt to think for myself and not listen to the crap from everyone else about how I should view the world. I learnt hard work and determination brings rewards and those that want to sit on their arse and cry in their beer about how life has treated them will always be the victim. I truly am sorry for those people on that documentary but as I said before it was 30 years ago they need to let it go. Once a SCAB always a SCAB? FFS leave it out my family is more imporatnt to me than a job..

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Oh and they dumped her when she got to big for her boots

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

wonder what a labour government would have done faced with same or would it have never come to it under labour .A failing industry was the problem .The way thatcher went about it was her downfall ,her hatred of the labour ran unions .Chalk and cheese .Unions ,although set up by workers for the workers were politically swayed and bought off by opposing government so there was only ever one outcome

[The Seeker 3,048]

wonder what a labour government would have done faced with same or would it have never come to it under labour .A failing industry was the problem .The way thatcher went about it was her downfall ,her hatred of the labour ran unions .Chalk and cheese .Unions ,although set up by workers for the workers were politically swayed and bought off by opposing government so there was only ever one outcome

 

Labour tried to do something about it put a cap of 5% on the pay increases which the Unions were infuriated with, Labour could not face the Unions because Labour was FUNDED by the Unions. THAT is why the strikes happended and why Thatcher came to power and sorted the sh*t out.

[Tiercel 6,986]

The problem with this country is the geographical divide of wealth. The S East is the richest part of the country, probably because it has the highest density of population not to mention the capital city. The local economy refects this. Compare that to Wales where the total population is less than greater London then you have a supply and demand problem.

 

When the pits were closed demand decreased for any comoditiy, for obvious reasons. You cannot have the people who were thrown on the scrap pile (no matter how much they wanted to) opening up new ventures where the demand was less than when they were in work.

 

I will try and spell it out for the hard of comprehension. You have a community of 1000 families, 500 who work down the local pit, every other part of the community relies on that pit for it's livelyhood from the draper to the butcher. Once that pit closes it is not only the miners that suffer it is all the ancillary businesses.

 

And yet some are saying that amidst that failing local economy every miner should have worked his balls off to make something of his self.

 

That is the biggest load of shit that has ever graced the pages of this forum.

 

Given the privaledges that the people in the S East of the country have been given population wise and maybe they could have.

 

I am not moaning nor complaining just stating facts.

 

TC

Edited March 13, 2014 by tiercel

[lanesra 4,007]

Bit off Topic , Just Seen This On The News Tony Blair "The Middle East Peace Envoy" . . FFS This Man Has No Shame . . Though Plenty Off Corrupt Friends !!

[gonetoearth 5,144]

10 things you did not no about margret thatcher the independent. Some one put it up.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Bit off Topic , Just Seen This On The News Tony Blair "The Middle East Peace Envoy" . . FFS This Man Has No Shame . . Though Plenty Off Corrupt Friends !!

. Oh f dont start me on that traitor lol

[twobob 1,499]

 

 

Twobob, I bet that were a size 7 cause they had run out if 9s as well.....don't tell me norman tebbit came and put a match to it ! Lol lol

Tiercel, "empathy for my fellow workers".......what a load of old bollocks.

Everyone's "empathy for fellow workers" extends about as far a Tesco when they buy some socks made by a 7 year old on 10p a day

Don't make me f*****g laugh

no size 8 and no it wasnt tebbit it wo them fxcking binmen back from their strike cleaning bxstard street

Size 8 !!!!!........f*****g show offs

I bet you even had shoes ! Lol

 

yes one pair between 15 ok for some but iam size 11 ffs

[baw 4,360]

 

 

Fcuk there is some shit being talked on this thread. Yes Thatcher done good for herself from middle class beginings, yes she was an astute politician. And yes she fcuked the country up by setting neighbor against neighbor, by applealing to the greed that is in everyone. It is not the politicians that have caused the lack of community spirit, it is the greed of the people, with the 'fcuk you jack I am allright' attitude that she fostered as the right way to be. TC

Another thing that's wrong with society these days is running through that post...... The blame game. Do you take responsibility for your own actions or life mate or is it all dictated to you by others?

Bloody hell Baw, that's the best thing you have ever written mate.

Totally agree with that.

Aye well I'm still waiting on yours, get the finger out