Ratreeper 441 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 This isn't mind-blowing news, I just thought a few of the statements in this article were very odd http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24532638 Firstly, that people in London are closer to nature than those in rural areas This doesn't add up with my experiences at all, I f***ing hate London but have had mates who grew up there and can only recognise a pigeon and fox. I also would have assumed that boys were more involved than girls, I grew up climbing trees and then ferreting etc and the only thing girls ever seemed to do that didn't involve a mirror was horse riding. What do you think to this? I want to know what questions they were asking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 The irony of an organisation that tries to alienate the people that are the most connected with the countryside/nature, pulling people up for not being 'connected' enough with it ffs Leave the 79% to it, my two are fine 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 as long as there connected to the psn thats all they care about lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,627 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Thats very sad news Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 The idea that the city has no connection to nature can be misleading.......................... If I mention Milton Keynes, for instance, concrete, sprawling estates and featureless motorways might spring to mind, but you couldn't be further from the truth. We have endless acres of parkland, woodland and open spaces - (most of the land in the town is managed by the Parks Trust). There are many lakes, a good stretch of both the River Ouse and the Grand Union Canal - more coastline than Jersey ! (It's true!) Just yards from my house, me and the big dog regularly see rabbits, squirrels, munties, roe and fallow deer, buzzards and red kites, yet I live on what would probably be called 'an estate'. (Oh, and don't forget the concrete cows!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted October 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 The idea that the city has no connection to nature can be misleading.......................... If I mention Milton Keynes, for instance, concrete, sprawling estates and featureless motorways might spring to mind, but you couldn't be further from the truth. We have endless acres of parkland, woodland and open spaces - (most of the land in the town is managed by the Parks Trust). There are many lakes, a good stretch of both the River Ouse and the Grand Union Canal - more coastline than Jersey ! (It's true!) Just yards from my house, me and the big dog regularly see rabbits, squirrels, munties, roe and fallow deer, buzzards and red kites, yet I live on what would probably be called 'an estate'. (Oh, and don't forget the concrete cows!) That is true there are some good parks in cities, so I would be interested in what kind of questions were used to establish what they have defined as 'in touch with nature'. A completely fabricated park is scarcely that different to a managed countryside in a lot of ways, but it's like saying you are experienced with an African safari because you went to Longleats. For example I grew up in a village where I would be trotting about with a rifle without a case swinging dead rabbits next to me, a pair of jeans had a life expectancy of two days and I spent all my time outside doing some kind of activity (falconry mostly, fishing, shooting, ferreting, archery) and had a lot of pets. But a lad from London might have been to a park with a mowed bit of green, climbed a tree and then returned home to watch TV and as far as the questionnaire is concerned they have ticked the same boxes. I am not saying my upbringing was better, but I have never met someone who grew up in London who has a clue about wildlife and how ecosystems work. The bigger point is that not only are they ignorant, they have absolutely no interest in learning because the countryside is 'boring'. A couple of my mates came to Dorset for the day and couldn't believe I could live further than walking distance from a supermarket and a takeaway. FFS it's only a 10 min drive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 You're right, mate. It depends on how they defined 'connected' and 'nature'. My guess would be that by 'connected to nature', they actually meant 'do you like going outdoors much?', and that none of the kids were asked to identify game species or set a mole trap ! I've also met loads of people who say things like 'you can't shoot Bambi' or 'don't they sell rabbit in Tesco?' and get panic attacks if they're more than a mile from KFC ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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