paulus 26 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Too tight a beam isn't the best for rabbits. It's easy for the lamper to lose the bunny as it turns. 100 yard plus slips should be the norm. I'll slip my dog on rabbits that are 200+ yards out. good way to lose a dog its teeth, some very rabbity looking rocks at that distance i have even seen a well respected dogman. mentioning no names (simoman) lamp a very rabbity looking coke can at around that distance Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I use a Nightmaster 800 in red. I get eyeshine from fox and deer at 400+ yards. Rabbits are easily identified out to 250 yards. The reflection from their eyes with the red LED is superb. There's a few blokes on here that have seen my dog run and seen my lamp work. If the fella lamping can't see that far, then that's a different thing altogether! My range estimation is pretty good and is made all the easier when I'm on my golf course permission, due to the distance markers. I'm sure of my distances. My dogs a deerhound x, he won't strike at a rock, I doubt he'd run one. He's got brains. 1 Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 If you could run bigger stuff then I'd slip at longer distances than 200 yards. If your dog can't make up that ground then it's a draw dog not a running dog. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I use a Nightmaster 800 in red. I get eyeshine from fox and deer at 400+ yards. Rabbits are easily identified out to 250 yards. The reflection from their eyes with the red LED is superb. There's a few blokes on here that have seen my dog run and seen my lamp work. If the fella lamping can't see that far, then that's a different thing altogether! My range estimation is pretty good and is made all the easier when I'm on my golf course permission, due to the distance markers. I'm sure of my distances. My dogs a deerhound x, he won't strike at a rock, I doubt he'd run one. He's got brains. so he don't take squatters then Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,860 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Well arnt you just perfect,,lol Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I use a Nightmaster 800 in red. I get eyeshine from fox and deer at 400+ yards. Rabbits are easily identified out to 250 yards. The reflection from their eyes with the red LED is superb. There's a few blokes on here that have seen my dog run and seen my lamp work. If the fella lamping can't see that far, then that's a different thing altogether! My range estimation is pretty good and is made all the easier when I'm on my golf course permission, due to the distance markers. I'm sure of my distances. My dogs a deerhound x, he won't strike at a rock, I doubt he'd run one. He's got brains. so he don't take squatters then Does your dog strike at anything that you put the lamp on? Did you drop him on his head as a puppy? Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Well arnt you just perfect,,lol Pretty much. Let me just make this clear to you I'M STRAIGHT! I ONLY GO WITH WOMEN! My point is, if the bloke lamping can't see then the dog don't get slipped. There's a couple of blokes on here with very capable bull x's who were lamping with me. They were trying to get closer and I was about to slip. They slipped there dogs at the same distances that I'm talking about and their dogs made up the ground and got on terms. They'd never have done that if they hadn't seen me do it. If you're dog can't be slipped from that distance then it's not fit for the job and if you can't see to slip your dog then the same applies. Quote Link to post
gibbo1973 187 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 with small type paddocks and smallish fields then get close as poss as they know where they want to be long slips are ok ,9 times out of ten they turn their quarry and run towards you or to the side so your always on the quarry long slips on grass ok as dogs can see them long slips in stubble ?? we can see them but dogs may suffer running blind training early in a pups life slipping them when the see the quarry in the beam only benefits in the later seasons as they trust you and know you have quarry out there somewhere moonlit nights is a no no for me as the bitch can see more than us when lamps off and may cause injury when pursuing game when finally out of beam Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,860 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Well arnt you just perfect,,lol Pretty much. Let me just make this clear to you I'M STRAIGHT! I ONLY GO WITH WOMEN! My point is, if the bloke lamping can't see then the dog don't get slipped. There's a couple of blokes on here with very capable bull x's who were lamping with me. They were trying to get closer and I was about to slip. They slipped there dogs at the same distances that I'm talking about and their dogs made up the ground and got on terms. They'd never have done that if they hadn't seen me do it. If you're dog can't be slipped from that distance then it's not fit for the job and if you can't see to slip your dog then the same applies. Better get me coat then,,, and shoot this old dog,,, cos it deffo won't run somthing 400 pluss yards away,,, and especially if I can't see the fecker.... What a big head,, ever thought about having a little more humility ? 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,860 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Come on then cranky,,, what's the longest distance your dog has gone out to a rabbit? Quote Link to post
nighteyes 275 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 big slips are ok if your just out for a couple runs but if your out for a good while running plenty then slipping at them sort of distances the dog gonna burn alot quicker imo Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 lol Quote Link to post
kranky 507 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Well arnt you just perfect,,lolPretty much. Let me just make this clear to you I'M STRAIGHT! I ONLY GO WITH WOMEN! My point is, if the bloke lamping can't see then the dog don't get slipped. There's a couple of blokes on here with very capable bull x's who were lamping with me. They were trying to get closer and I was about to slip. They slipped there dogs at the same distances that I'm talking about and their dogs made up the ground and got on terms. They'd never have done that if they hadn't seen me do it. If you're dog can't be slipped from that distance then it's not fit for the job and if you can't see to slip your dog then the same applies. Better get me coat then,,, and shoot this old dog,,, cos it deffo won't run somthing 400 pluss yards away,,, and especially if I can't see the fecker.... What a big head,, ever thought about having a little more humility ? How do you use a coat to shoot a dog? You've misread the 400+ yard bit, have another look, I never said that. You said I was perfect, I just agreed. I tried having a bit of humility once but I never liked it. I think it's more suited to you average, run of the mill type blokes, than someone exceptional like me. Quote Link to post
leec 132 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 if its already 400yrds away when slip how far is it by the time the dog gets with it if it runs the opposite way? Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 out the beam unless you on a horse/quad or in a jeep lol thats how far, not many places here i could slip at 250+ yds and then still expect to catch unless its caught out the beam, i need some real big flat fields i think, oh aye and a deerhound and a fancy lamp lol 1 Quote Link to post
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