Ireland Competitions At The Irish Game Fair

[louiejoe 63]

At pedigree shows Veterans are 7 years and over under English KC rules and 8 years and over under Irish KC rules, and yes as Albert has said both pups and veterans can compete in the final line up for Best of Breed.

I too think the Veterans should have their own class and then be allowed to compete for the overall champion/ best or breed at the working shows, especially at those where they class veterans as 6 years old or above - I currently have two 6 year old whippets who are 'in their prime' and can easily compete with the best of the youngsters, and a 9 year old who is as fit as a fiddle and in good hard condition who still gives the youngsters a run for their money!!

[AlbertJ 569]

LJ,

 

I personally think a dog at 6 should be in its prime but I have no strong feelings about whether the class be over 7 or over 8. Give me your views!

[bowersey 59]

Exactly Tracey if your dogs can compete in with the young ones why do we need to have them in the veteran class why not simple have a dog class not agruing just a friendly debate excuse the spelling on the mobile eyes are not working too well in sunlight this screen is hard to see

[Chid 6,847]

Veteran class for a lurcher should be at least 8 but more like 10 imo , there's plenty of older lurchers still in excellent shape and some what would show some younger ones up in the field ..

[bowersey 59]

Think the same should be said for whippets a 6-7 year old should be in good enough nick to go into the dog or bitch class

[AlbertJ 569]

Veteran class for a lurcher should be at least 8 but more like 10 imo , there's plenty of older lurchers still in excellent shape and some what would show some younger ones up in the field ..

 

Chid,

 

thanks for putting forward a point of view on lurchers which is where we came in as only the lrchers had a veteran class because someone asked for it. This year there was a request for Whippet & Terrier Veteran classes and I feel it is good to see some of the older dogs including some of the more famous ones as well as the 'lasters'. I am happy to take views on this for lurchers, terriers and whippets but I feel it should certainly be 7 plus.

[bowersey 59]

Now we have the puppy and veterans out of the mix on to the pairs should it not be a pair of dogs biches that are kennaled and hunt work together rather than two lurchers whippets that are alike and owened by different people.

[AlbertJ 569]

Yes I would have thought the pairs should be in the same ownership

[bowersey 59]

It is definitly not the case Albert I for one and people like me have two whippets which double up on the lamp ferreting and are caged together look nothing like each other But are beat because there is folk that take litter mates which are simlar into the ring which are owned by different people.

[AlbertJ 569]

I think that we will restrict pairs to dogs in the same ownership

[AlbertJ 569]

Made what I hope will be the FINAL changes to the classifications with ALL veteran classes now for dogs over 7 years of age and Whippet , Terrier and Lurcher Pairs to be from the same ownership. When I have judged Pairs ( or brace classes ) in the past I looked for how alike or matched the pairs, their conformation and how well they moved together - hopefully as one .

 

Can I suggest you come early to Shanes Castle or leave one day free for going round the fair. We have an exceptionally good quality trade stand base this year and three arenas. The focus is very definitely a 'Game Fair' one with a huge number of attractions including the 'WOODCOOK & SALMON PAVILION' and our FLAVOUR FINE FOOD PAVILION which includes cookery demos by award winning chef Emmett Mc Court - featuring all manner of rabbit dishes as well as his normal game & fish dishes. In addition to Emmett we have a good range of other chefs. This will undoubtedly be the best FINE FOOD PAVILION at any Irish Game Fair this year and of course we have some excellent fine food stands in our other pavilions including PETER GOTT from Silfield Farm with his game pies, wild boar pies, sausages and bacon - his Herdwick Cumbrian lamb etc Time is running out for people to make application to me for a Two days for one ticket but in the hard copy of the Irish Countrysports and country life magazine , in the shops next Wed. There is a voucher for £10 off the price of a couple or family admission.

Edited May 30, 2013 by AlbertJ

[appleblossom 703]

The correct decision Albert.

[AlbertJ 569]

Change made to classifications to include KC registered Whippet race as part of the Director's Challenge.

[AlbertJ 569]

The classifications we will be using are as above. As stated elsewhere on the forum anyone can make a formal complaint on depositing £40 which will be returned if the complaint is upheld or forfeited to a chairty of my choice. We will not consider any complaints which are not made on the day of the event. Anyone found cheating or judged to be cheating will be disqualified and banned from our events for a period of up to three years.

[bowersey 59]

Albert if a complaint is made accusing a person running an lurcher as an unregistered whippet .

What happens then is the person in question offered the chance of proving the breedind of the dog in question ?

Or is up to to the complaintive to prove it is not whippet

I suppose what I am asking is .Is it case of guilty until proved inocent ?

.Or inocent until proved guilty ?

Sammy