bunny tickler 876 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 tony ask how many country people check the spring traps are 100 pr cent dead ? now lets start with rats ,look at all the you tube vids on nv ratting how many wriggle about after being shot ? is a rat a rabbit more important than a squirrel , now tell us all on here honestly .have you ever wounded a creature ? has it got away ? i certainly have & i have hunted & shot for 50yrs ok the old lad did wrong but why the persecution ,he is not a criminal ,th case will cost £1000s yet the goverment are closeing libraries cutting services because there is no money ,,lets get our priorities right ,its a feckin squirrel ,we have ALL DONE IT should we end this stupid post & get on with more important things 2 Quote Link to post
coley_airgunner 14 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 he was probably practicing his target out to 40 yard on the little grey f**ker, poor bloke shuold of drowned it neighbour wouldnt av seen any signs of life after though Quote Link to post
Wildling 520 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Hang on a minute Phantom are you for real ??? It's bad enough having to put up with left wing Nutters and Anti Looneys without you throwing your weight into the argument for them !!! Didn't you say it was alright to shot quarry with Underpowered Air Rifles and even Air Pistols in another thread ? Who's to say the old fella hasn't suffered enough with all the harassment from the old bill and the press ? Ever heard of making a mistake.....??? 1 Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Jean Charles de Menezes was shot at 11 times at point blank range by firearm officers.He was shot 5 times in the head and once in the shoulder,5 shots missed the target.No one was ever prosecuted.They say shit happens......... Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 tony ask how many country people check the spring traps are 100 pr cent dead ? now lets start with rats ,look at all the you tube vids on nv ratting how many wriggle about after being shot ? is a rat a rabbit more important than a squirrel , now tell us all on here honestly .have you ever wounded a creature ? has it got away ? i certainly have & i have hunted & shot for 50yrs ok the old lad did wrong but why the persecution ,he is not a criminal ,th case will cost £1000s yet the goverment are closeing libraries cutting services because there is no money ,,lets get our priorities right ,its a feckin squirrel ,we have ALL DONE IT should we end this stupid post & get on with more important things Yep BT, I have My first time disturbed me so much that I now kneck after every shot, hence my feelings about the subject. I'm not saying the guy should be sent to prison, I said he deserved a hefty penalty. It may have been a mistake, but it was clearly a case of cruelty Hang on a minute Phantom are you for real ??? It's bad enough having to put up with left wing Nutters and Anti Looneys without you throwing your weight into the argument for them !!! Didn't you say it was alright to shot quarry with Underpowered Air Rifles and even Air Pistols in another thread ? Who's to say the old fella hasn't suffered enough with all the harassment from the old bill and the press ? Ever heard of making a mistake.....??? No I did not say it was alright to shoot quarry with underpowered air rifles and pistols My point on that thread was Accuracy is more important than power. I could drop a ton weight on you from a height, but it wouldnt harm you if I missed you would it? I could on the other hand drop a penny on you from the same position and height and it would kill you if it landed on your head. Tony Quote Link to post
Wildling 520 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Jean Charles de Menezes was shot at 11 times at point blank range by firearm officers.He was shot 5 times in the head and once in the shoulder,5 shots missed the target.No one was ever prosecuted.They say shit happens......... Did Phantom come running over to Neck Him......??? Quote Link to post
bunny tickler 876 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 good thread isnt it lads Quote Link to post
moxy 617 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 Well here is my two peneth. The old boy OR anybody who does not have the capable means to despatch a cage trapped animal should not own a LIVE catch cage. Again its the profit mongerers selling what should be a professional product to any old joe with a spud gun. I am strictly speaking from the various laws and acts which govern the use of cages. Along with the old fella who drowned a squirrel, should he have been in charge of a cage with no suitable despatch method. Im sure there are numerous cases and the list goes on. A caged fenn or bodygrip would have been more worthy for both parties and the quarry. But the sad thing is the fuckwitts who come up with guidelines for the despatch of cage trapped animals cant get it right either. The GWCT instructed myself and at least 30 other people on a mink trapping course how to despatch cage trapped mink, Poor advise. There reccomended the use of a .22 air pistol and NAPIER branded pellets. They were more interested into the plugging of the brand Napier than the quick despatch of quarry. I have had the reccomended webley air pistol and attempted to despatch a squirrel in a cage. Shot placement has to be vital or you can have the pellet bounce back, again causing suffering, a squirrel isnt a mink but there is no diference in my eyes if the tool is not up to the job If cages are to be sold to the public then they should be supplied with cage combs. or not sold at all. This country is f****d with bollox legislation, I as many have to go on courses, pay a fortune for insurance etc etc etc all in order to buy and use professional products, basically the same products B & Q sell to your gran. The old boy was doing what he thought was right, unfortunate. 3 Quote Link to post
coley_airgunner 14 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 tony ask how many country people check the spring traps are 100 pr cent dead ? now lets start with rats ,look at all the you tube vids on nv ratting how many wriggle about after being shot ? is a rat a rabbit more important than a squirrel , now tell us all on here honestly .have you ever wounded a creature ? has it got away ? i certainly have & i have hunted & shot for 50yrs ok the old lad did wrong but why the persecution ,he is not a criminal ,th case will cost £1000s yet the goverment are closeing libraries cutting services because there is no money ,,lets get our priorities right ,its a feckin squirrel ,we have ALL DONE IT should we end this stupid post & get on with more important things Yep BT, I have My first time disturbed me so much that I now kneck after every shot, hence my feelings about the subject. I'm not saying the guy should be sent to prison, I said he deserved a hefty penalty. It may have been a mistake, but it was clearly a case of cruelty Hang on a minute Phantom are you for real ??? It's bad enough having to put up with left wing Nutters and Anti Looneys without you throwing your weight into the argument for them !!! Didn't you say it was alright to shot quarry with Underpowered Air Rifles and even Air Pistols in another thread ? Who's to say the old fella hasn't suffered enough with all the harassment from the old bill and the press ? Ever heard of making a mistake.....??? No I did not say it was alright to shoot quarry with underpowered air rifles and pistols My point on that thread was Accuracy is more important than power. I could drop a ton weight on you from a height, but it wouldnt harm you if I missed you would it? I could on the other hand drop a penny on you from the same position and height and it would kill you if it landed on your head. Tony but the ton weight might hit the unlucky sod behind him Quote Link to post
Wildling 520 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 tony ask how many country people check the spring traps are 100 pr cent dead ? now lets start with rats ,look at all the you tube vids on nv ratting how many wriggle about after being shot ? is a rat a rabbit more important than a squirrel , now tell us all on here honestly .have you ever wounded a creature ? has it got away ? i certainly have & i have hunted & shot for 50yrs ok the old lad did wrong but why the persecution ,he is not a criminal ,th case will cost £1000s yet the goverment are closeing libraries cutting services because there is no money ,,lets get our priorities right ,its a feckin squirrel ,we have ALL DONE IT should we end this stupid post & get on with more important things Yep BT, I have My first time disturbed me so much that I now kneck after every shot, hence my feelings about the subject. I'm not saying the guy should be sent to prison, I said he deserved a hefty penalty. It may have been a mistake, but it was clearly a case of cruelty Hang on a minute Phantom are you for real ??? It's bad enough having to put up with left wing Nutters and Anti Looneys without you throwing your weight into the argument for them !!! Didn't you say it was alright to shot quarry with Underpowered Air Rifles and even Air Pistols in another thread ? Who's to say the old fella hasn't suffered enough with all the harassment from the old bill and the press ? Ever heard of making a mistake.....??? No I did not say it was alright to shoot quarry with underpowered air rifles and pistols My point on that thread was Accuracy is more important than power. I could drop a ton weight on you from a height, but it wouldnt harm you if I missed you would it? I could on the other hand drop a penny on you from the same position and height and it would kill you if it landed on your head. Tony but the ton weight might hit the unlucky sod behind him Feck me take cover boys ! Quote Link to post
bunny tickler 876 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 right ,im off to check my springers in case a rat is suffering i have my hot water bottle & blanket to make sure he is comfortable for the night , can anyone advise me how i check for pulse ? i have a torch to check the pupils in his eye & have booked a full scan at the local a&e for the morning dont want to make a mistake do i 1 Quote Link to post
Wildling 520 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 right ,im off to check my springers in case a rat is suffering i have my hot water bottle & blanket to make sure he is comfortable for the night , can anyone advise me how i check for pulse ? i have a torch to check the pupils in his eye & have booked a full scan at the local a&e for the morning dont want to make a mistake do i Don't forget to carry out a full Autopsy before declaring the time of death......! Quote Link to post
fry 209 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 haha its pathetic how many people do they think hunt with cattys an a dog?? the squirrel gets hit out the tree and the dog kills it same with a lot of pigeon, pheasant and rabbit kills. not that i use cage traps but i did i would probably just let it go! but it wouldnt get far before my dog dispatched it. lot of fuss about a species classed as vermin. 1 Quote Link to post
bunny tickler 876 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 will do Quote Link to post
j j m 6,610 Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 hes made a bad mistake and no doubt he will pay for it,but why the hell did he pose for a pic with the gun in the local rag,that never looks good and gives guns a bad name Quote Link to post
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