30 30 reticules

[reaper1064 285]

Anyone use these on their air rifles. Always used mil dot scopes but just wondering how easy they would be to use. By the way I only hunt, no comp shooting.

[davyt63 1,845]

hi buddy

a lot of guess work involved,but if you can bracket from the bunny's ear,then it should be OK?

i know Pianoman uses one on one of his spring rifles.

i have used them in the passed but much prefer a half mildot scope,as i want to be 100% sure my quarry is going down humanly

[reaper1064 285]

Cheers mate.

[davyt63 1,845]

Cheers mate.

 

no problem

[Wildling 520]

I use them a fair bit mate but then I've always used 6 x mag on ether a fixed or a variable scope.

That way I've no need to learn lots of points of aim as my sighting plain is quite straight out to from my first zero point to my second.

 

However you've still got to know your scope and rifle combination inside and out before taking it out shooting live quarry.

[woodcote1 88]

I much prefer a plain ret as many of the new ones appear cluttered to my eye. My next scope is going to be a Nikon Pro Staff EFR and it has a very clear ret. It is just a case of learning to use "eyeball" holdover as i did for many years with a 30/30 ret before i fell for mil dot mania!

[Phantom 631]

I used to use a 30/30

 

Then I got a mildot. I'm not sure that it was an upgrade though

Reason being is that I could take clean head shots with the 30/30 without really thinking, it became very instinctive

 

Since I moved to mildots, I became very obsessive with range finding and elevation. Now I check range, then do the math, check on my charts count the dots and if the quarry has moved, then I do it all again

Funnily enough though, I had problems with windage on the 30/30, but never did with the mildot system.

 

I guess that just like the cal debate, each ret has pro's and cons.

 

Tony

[Wildling 520]

I much prefer a plain ret as many of the new ones appear cluttered to my eye. My next scope is going to be a Nikon Pro Staff EFR and it has a very clear ret. It is just a case of learning to use "eyeball" holdover as i did for many years with a 30/30 ret before i fell for mil dot mania!

 

To much emphasis put on having as many bells and whistles on scopes today mate, you still can't beat having a nice clear glass and the plenty of practice.

[pianoman 3,589]

As Davy says, I use them and Simmons and Bushnell are my favourites. These are top quality optics with brilliant performances.

 

I've got a Bushnell Scopechief 4-14x50 scope on my .177 TX200HC with a 30-30 reticle. I love them for their simple, uncomplicated sighting and clarity of uncluttered sightpicture. I zero this rifle at 35 metres and the bottom post at the point of thick to thin is bang on at 55 metres on 8xpower. No longer made alas but, after over 10 years of use on this rifle, it is still performing fabulously.

 

My HW77 .22 has a 30-30 reticle Simmons 4.5-14x40 Whitetail Classic for hunting. Zero on 6mag power at 30 metres and the bottom thick to thin post is bang on 40 meters with the same measure again to hit rabbits heads at 50 metres.

 

My FAC HW80 .22 has a Simmons Pro Air 6-18x40 with 30/30 reticle. I zero this at 30 metres on 6xmag and it gives a very effective hunting optic without having to estimate too much holdover/under at variable ranges.

 

I love them and will continue using them as long as the work!

 

Pianoman.

 

Edit to add that, I totally agree with Wasted-for-ever's comments on practice and the need to understand pellet trajectory from your rifle. You cannot beat an uncluttered reticle like these for hunting in poor/low light.

Edited January 13, 2013 by pianoman

[Wildling 520]

As Davy says, I use them and Simmons and Bushnell are my favourites. These are top quality optics with brilliant performances.

 

I've got a Bushnell Scopechief 4-14x50 scope on my .177 TX200HC with a 30-30 reticle. I love them for their simple, uncomplicated sighting and clarity of uncluttered sightpicture. I zero this rifle at 35 metres and the bottom post at the point of thick to thin is bang on at 55 metres on 8xpower. No longer made alas but, after over 10 years of use on this rifle, it is still performing fabulously.

 

My HW77 .22 has a 30-30 reticle Simmons 4.5-14x40 Whitetail Classic for hunting. Zero on 6mag power at 30 metres and the bottom thick to thin post is bang on 40 meters with the same measure again to hit rabbits heads at 50 metres.

 

My FAC HW80 .22 has a Simmons Pro Air 6-18x40 with 30/30 reticle. I zero this at 30 metres on 6xmag and it gives a very effective hunting optic without having to estimate too much holdover/under at variable ranges.

 

I love them and will continue using them as long as the work!

 

Pianoman.

 

Edit to add that, I totally agree with Wasted-for-ever's comments on practice and the need to understand pellet trajectory from your rifle. You cannot beat an uncluttered reticle like these for hunting in poor/low light.

 

Every thing you've said is exactly what I've always tried to gain from my scopes, a good crystal clear image thats uncluttered and has excellent low light abilities.

 

For example I'm currently using on my both of my air rifle rigs the beautiful and very well made Leupold FX III 6 x 42 scope.

[woodcote1 88]

Has it got an adjustable objective or did you change it yourself?

[Wildling 520]

Its not got an adjustable AO but I've never had any problems shooting with it.

[woodcote1 88]

For years i shot on x6 and had the AO set at 30 yards. Never had a problem just point and shoot. Last year i started using x10 and found it to be a pain. I was always fiddling with the AO to get a pin sharp image and it turned out to be a chore. Im back to my old ways now and shooting much better.

[Lewis Ste 245]

I have an old hawke endurance 3-10x44 map 8 and a hawke nite eye 3-12x50 ao ir and the nite eye is in its box at the moment. The simplicity of x6 at 30m then 8x after that without having to worry about the ao plus the scopes abit smaller and I found the guns more accurate with the endurance

[Wildling 520]

I have an old hawke endurance 3-10x44 map 8 and a hawke nite eye 3-12x50 ao ir and the nite eye is in its box at the moment. The simplicity of x6 at 30m then 8x after that without having to worry about the ao plus the scopes abit smaller and I found the guns more accurate with the endurance

 

Here here to much naffing about with AO these days, if you have you head positioned right and your not using any NV add ons then why bother.