BS40liam 203 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm thinking of going out with the gun tomorrow but after taking a shot of at a pigeon earlier in the garden and missing I think I need to sight the gun. Now I've never sighted a gun as my father in law usually does it as he uses the gun more than me, but he's not around so I need to do it my self! So any tips on the best way to go about doing it please? The guns a weihrauch HW 99s with a nikko sterling 3-9x40 scope cheers liam. Quote Link to post
Skot Ruthless Teale 1,701 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 put up a massive plain white target like an a4/a3 paper.. stand close fire at the centre. if the pellet goes low and left click the turrets a few times maybe half a turn at a time untill the pellet goes close to where you were aiming. then move back a few yards and do the same again. then further a bit more etc until you have it very close at your preffered range. then you can put a new target up and take 5-10 shots at the same target and if they all go up and right slightly for example, click it a few clicks at a time untill you get a really fine zero. if its .22 best to zero at roughly 25 meters 27-28 yards. good luck mate all the best Quote Link to post
BS40liam 203 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yes its .22 thanks for the reply will give it a go 2morrow morning. Atb Quote Link to post
Roy Williamson 15 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would have thought you would need to know the basics of range and scope set up before you start shooting live quarry. Under the scopes screw off turret caps there will be adjusters, usually marked L-R and U-D. If you are shooting to the right you need to move the zero to the left, so you move the adjuster in the direction of the L arrow etc. You will also need to know the effects of shooting targets higher or lower to your position. Untill you are comfortable with your gun setup, how it shoots, what holdover/holdunder you need to use at various distances in relation to your rifles zero I would keep to shooting paper targets. Shooting Live quarry is a privalige and you need to be confident of killing your quarry cleanly and humainly every time. 2 Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 try a free copy of chairgun, it helps to see whats going on and to choose your zero distance. it is posable to set up at a ten yard range but its not that constant when you shoot any further...an in at ten yatfd is like 6 at 40... http://www.hawkeoptics.com/apps/chairgun-pro.html Quote Link to post
jackinbox99 41 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I use an old cardboard box, and tape a bit of a4 paper to it. I then draw around a 2p on it many times, so i get a grid of 1inch size targets. I set this out at the zero i want - usually 25 or 30 yards. Making sure that theres a good backstop behind the box i usually stick a brick or something in it to weigh it down. Then aim at the middle target. See where the pellet goes, adjust scope accordingly. I then make sure its set up by trying to shoot each target in turn. You can get about 20 odd targets easily on the bit of a4. Quote Link to post
BS40liam 203 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would have thought you would need to know the basics of range and scope set up before you start shooting live quarry. Under the scopes screw off turret caps there will be adjusters, usually marked L-R and U-D. If you are shooting to the right you need to move the zero to the left, so you move the adjuster in the direction of the L arrow etc. You will also need to know the effects of shooting targets higher or lower to your position. Untill you are comfortable with your gun setup, how it shoots, what holdover/holdunder you need to use at various distances in relation to your rifles zero I would keep to shooting paper targets. Shooting Live quarry is a privalige and you need to be confident of killing your quarry cleanly and humainly every time. I'm not that mad on guns tbh so learning to sight up didn't rely bother me as its usualy done for me, as for shooting live quarry being a privalige imo that's utter crap lol I only got the gun for shooting the rats that's around my chicken coupe and the odd pigeon so its not like I'm out shooting on permision or anything all the time, if that was the case then I would make sure I was up to scratch with it all. Cheers for the reply atb Quote Link to post
BS40liam 203 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Also I have a mate coming over tomorrow to show me the basics with sighting up and changes for winddirection ect so we can go out on his permision and do some shooting soon atb Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 you do know its just as hard shooting close up as far away? theres hell of a climb on the ret there mate lol. and...ricoche? do you know where its going to go if it does, dont half take an eye or two out lol. Quote Link to post
BS40liam 203 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I no where everyone is coming from and I appreciate any advise or concerns, but everyone was young once and don't get me wrong I'm sensible about it I don't just go out shooting willy nilly, I've just set up targets in the back garden ( I live in the countryside and back garden leads onto fields so nothing to worry about in the respects of loose pellets hitting anything) and have had a go at sighting and it was easier than I thought...I tried the 2p method on a4 and withing 8 shots had it pretty bang on, so for the sort of shooting I'm doing atm which is targets and the odd woody or feral and rats in my garden I don't think its much of a problem. Like I've said once I've learnt a few more things and got more of the basics under my belt then ill be out in the field doing a bit atb Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 th chairgun snap shot for laser on the barrel.. Quote Link to post
villaman 9,982 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hi I think you need to learn a lot more about shooting airguns at targets at different distances and a bit more on the safety aspect even before shooting on any other land or at live quarry IMHO . Quote Link to post
BS40liam 203 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hi I think you need to learn a lot more about shooting airguns at targets at different distances and a bit more on the safety aspect even before shooting on any other land or at live quarry IMHO . lol. Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Hi Liam, People on here are trying to help you out and give you good sound advice. You seem to defend yourself and come back with answers that to many a sound hunter and air gun shooter are still not correct mate. Wether in your garden, in a barn shooting rats or ferals or in a field shooting rabbits there is a lot more to shooting than just pointing at a target with a cross hair and pulling the trigger. The species you are on about shooting, rats and ferals are not as easy as you think. As someone as already said shooting quarry at close range 2 to say 8 or 9 metres is harder than shooting a rabbit at 25 to 30 metres which is what you will probably zero at I'm guessing. You put the cross hairs on a rats brain at 5 metres and you will miss guaranteed mate with the pellet impacting under its body into what ever it was standing on. Like wise if you do the same on a ferals brain or where you see the heart as you will either miss completely or wound the feral hitting it near the anal region. Like wise calibre and power depending, if you shoot at the rat of ferals brain at 18 or 19 metres you will miss completely with the pellet impacting above in the back stop. The things that the lads above have mentioned are meant to help you out buddy, and learning these essential skills take more than a few hours work in the garden. Yes we have all been young and yes I have done the same as you, but I didn't have the experience of men and woman on a forum when I was young to listen to like you have buddy. If you lived closer I would happily take you out a few times and try and demonstrate the above points to you on paper. Wounding is not nice and people that shoot rats and pigeons and then show their shot quarry on a photograph are only kidding themselves if in reality they needed 2 or 3 shots per rat / bird to kill it cleanly. This to me isn't shooting. Learn the proper way by taking your time mate and doing it the right way. My finance Laura has only been shooting occasionally 2 or 3 times a year for nearly 3 years now. She learnt the proper way and her HFT scores verify this. She is more than capable of hitting any target from 8 to 45 yards when I tell her which mildot / aim point to use but she still hasn't shot at any vermin species yet because if she was to shoot at a target without holdover and hold under help and advice from me she would 50% or the time miss I would think. I want her to do it right and not experience the self distress of wounding.This takes time as you will undoubtedly find out buddy. Anyway not a rant at you, just the way it is mate. ATVB Si. Edited October 25, 2012 by zini 3 Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 you'll find a wounded rat attack both painfull and life threatening when you contract what ever deseis's theyre toating. Quote Link to post
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