MissRhianL 70 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Thinking the other day about working dogs and thought it is possible to make a decent working dog out of breeds that are not mixed bred amongst today's lurchers? Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Probably, but its more of a lottery i would say. Look at the australians! Quote Link to post
MissRhianL 70 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Like years ago the dashund was the dog for digging and now I don't hear of anyone using it as a working dog at all. A guy around by me had a pharaoh hound an said he was a great hunting dog but looking at the price of that breed these days I wouldn't take the gamble. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Like years ago the dashund was the dog for digging and now I don't hear of anyone using it as a working dog at all. A guy around by me had a pharaoh hound an said he was a great hunting dog but looking at the price of that breed these days I wouldn't take the gamble. Daschund means badger dog, in german. Thats what they were bred for originally, they are still widely used for both earth work and above ground hunting (mainly tracking wounded game or driving boar etc to guns), but now are mainly reffered to as 'Teckles'. There are shit loads in europe and quite a few here, i have a dog with some in its make up. R.E Pharoh hounds - when folk tell me that dogs like that were 'great hunters', it usually means, "for a pet dog that i expected to do f**k all, its a great hunter", against a purpose bred dog, they usually look shite! 1 Quote Link to post
MissRhianL 70 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yeah agree with you what some one will think is a brill worker another might find it a bag of shit that's how things go. Yeah apparently so I've been told that a daschund wouldn't enter like a normal terrier it would turn on its back and go that way whether it's true or not I couldn't tell u sometimes u just take people's word for things if u haven't seen it yourself. I think if u did have a certain breed from young o was brought up around other hunting dogs I think you could increase the chances of it being interested in Working and possibly turn out ok but I don't think they would compare to the common workers of today's hunting world. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yeah agree with you what some one will think is a brill worker another might find it a bag of shit that's how things go. Yeah apparently so I've been told that a daschund wouldn't enter like a normal terrier it would turn on its back and go that way whether it's true or not I couldn't tell u sometimes u just take people's word for things if u haven't seen it yourself. I think if u did have a certain breed from young o was brought up around other hunting dogs I think you could increase the chances of it being interested in Working and possibly turn out ok but I don't think they would compare to the common workers of today's hunting world. I would say the upside down entry thing is pretty much bollocks, well, no more than any other terrier, that will get down there any which was it can! I also agree that you can get most breeds hunting, if you bring them up on it, but you just cannot beat generations of selective breeding, very very very rarely anyway! Think of it like this - with all of the selective breeding etc, you still have plenty of failures in litters of sighthounds, terriers etc, so what chance does a pet bred thing stand? Quote Link to post
morton 5,369 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Thinking the other day about working dogs and thought it is possible to make a decent working dog out of breeds that are not mixed bred amongst today's lurchers? Why?,there is enough dross bred from exotic breeding attempts that will never match or equal the exploits of more recognised and proven types,no matter what some may have you believe. Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,065 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 What do mean by "not mixed bred"? If you mean purebreds plenty on here work purebred running dogs and do OK. Whippets, greyhounds ,salukis. Some still work purebred deerhounds too though it must be hard to find a good strain of them. Quote Link to post
WILF 51,095 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Like years ago the dashund was the dog for digging and now I don't hear of anyone using it as a working dog at all. A guy around by me had a pharaoh hound an said he was a great hunting dog but looking at the price of that breed these days I wouldn't take the gamble. Daschund means badger dog, in german. Thats what they were bred for originally, they are still widely used for both earth work and above ground hunting (mainly tracking wounded game or driving boar etc to guns), but now are mainly reffered to as 'Teckles'. There are shit loads in europe and quite a few here, i have a dog with some in its make up. R.E Pharoh hounds - when folk tell me that dogs like that were 'great hunters', it usually means, "for a pet dog that i expected to do f**k all, its a great hunter", against a purpose bred dog, they usually look shite! I know a lad that has kept teckels so he would be more educated than me on them, but IMHO I would think they would be useless for any sort of serious below ground work to anything like some sort of " standard"....... As has been said, the Aussy and yank lads are using some interesting crosses in there stags and pig hounds and are showing them some serious graft so you can never say never to anything.......but there are obviously some breeds you just would not use Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Like years ago the dashund was the dog for digging and now I don't hear of anyone using it as a working dog at all. A guy around by me had a pharaoh hound an said he was a great hunting dog but looking at the price of that breed these days I wouldn't take the gamble. Daschund means badger dog, in german. Thats what they were bred for originally, they are still widely used for both earth work and above ground hunting (mainly tracking wounded game or driving boar etc to guns), but now are mainly reffered to as 'Teckles'. There are shit loads in europe and quite a few here, i have a dog with some in its make up. R.E Pharoh hounds - when folk tell me that dogs like that were 'great hunters', it usually means, "for a pet dog that i expected to do f**k all, its a great hunter", against a purpose bred dog, they usually look shite! I know a lad that has kept teckels so he would be more educated than me on them, but IMHO I would think they would be useless for any sort of serious below ground work to anything like some sort of " standard"....... As has been said, the Aussy and yank lads are using some interesting crosses in there stags and pig hounds and are showing them some serious graft so you can never say never to anything.......but there are obviously some breeds you just would not use I've met / spoken to a few in europe who use them to effect, but then i guess, if you breed anything for a purpose . . . . some will do what you want. Aye, who'd have though sharpei x's or great danes would be decent pig dogs! Quote Link to post
j1985 1,984 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Great Danes are Boar hounds, and proper Shar Pei are fighting dogs so tbh it does make sense to try them. Iv heard of English bulldog x greys used as boar dogs. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Great Danes are Boar hounds, and proper Shar Pei are fighting dogs so tbh it does make sense to try them. Iv heard of English bulldog x greys used as boar dogs. I understand their historical connections mate, but looking at the average GD now, i'm just impressed that they manage to chase a pig without drowning in their own drool! 2 Quote Link to post
j1985 1,984 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Haha I know what you mean but there are still good ones about as in any breed that's even f****d by the KC Quote Link to post
MissRhianL 70 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Maximus ferret what I meant by not mixed bred was by not the common crosses that you see working today like greyhound bedlington patterdale what I was looking for was breeds that people stereotype as pets like yorky, great Dane, Dalmatian Quote Link to post
WILF 51,095 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Sorry, but what exactly would you hunt with a Great Dane?.....what would it bring to any mix? They are the most sorry arsed bits of shite on 4 legs......if we are going to discuss something at least lets try and be serious !! Lol lol What next, st Bernard's ? Lol lol Quote Link to post
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