weasle 1,119 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Just wondering what lads think,On this subject after talking to a lad the other day,His dilema is this.. He has a half breed bitch 5 years old used for rabbits,Shes done plenty capable of taking 30`s on the lamp. Good constitution feet nose ect,But she lacks speed.Infact its fair to say shes a plodder. He was asking me what i thought about putting a good fast dog over her.....I found it hard to answer you always think of breeding a good bitch that catches the eye,This bitch is held back by her lack of speed.Thoughts please. Edited October 21, 2012 by weasle Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Is the lack of speed the only thing thats a negative? With greater speed would that make her a good dog or an out standing dog? I think most dogs will have something a bit lacking, and if they are still a good dog, then they may be worth breeding off, if by adding that good thing, you may make the pups out standing. Also, could a better bred pup be bought in? 1 Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 All good questions ideation,Thats why its so hard to give a answer,You couldnt call her good because shes slow,But at the same time she will run and run and the lad says shes never refused a run even though she must know shes slow. As for buying in pups this lad is like me in that he keeps him self to hes self,He wouldnt even come on here.So you could buy in a pup thats better but unless youve seen the parents working how do you know? Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 30 rabbits is good scores would it catch more being faster ?? Would it burn out faster ?? Nobody knows If the lad likes the dog and its been trusty Mut why not breed it to a racier type, hoping for a bit more speed and adding Versatility Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,731 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 30 rabbits is good scores would it catch more being faster ?? Would it burn out faster ?? Good point that ..it's common sense that the faster it runs then the faster it will burn out..a bit like the hare and the tortoise story lol..is the chap wanting to change his ways of hunting ie:from lamping to something else?.. Atb Andy. Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 30 rabbits is good scores would it catch more being faster ?? Would it burn out faster ?? Good point that ..it's common sense that the faster it runs then the faster it will burn out..a bit like the hare and the tortoise story lol..is the chap wanting to change his ways of hunting ie:from lamping to something else?.. Atb Andy. Yet there is exceptions to every rule Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,731 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yep your right Gamerooster there are BUT let's be honest i could never see Usain Bolt beating Mo Farrah over 10,000m could you? or Mo beating Usain over 100m Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Yep your right Gamerooster there are BUT let's be honest i could never see Usain Bolt beating Mo Farrah over 10,000m could you? or Mo beating Usain over 100m Very true, but what would be as of your guess to a race between a greyhound and a saluki over 1000 metres? Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,731 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) If it were just a sprinter Greyhound then the Saluki everytime Edited to add if it WERE ANY Greyhound that i've ever owned then i'd definately take the Saluki to beat them even over 300m Edited October 21, 2012 by FUJI 1 Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 If it were just a sprinter Greyhound then the Saluki everytime Edited to add if it WERE ANY Greyhound that i've ever owned then i'd definately take the Saluki to beat them even over 300m No, i mean an open class marathon dog, or a coursing greyhound? And haha, I like your honesty mate Quote Link to post
Sherlock 42 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 If the bitch is a half bred collie lurcher , put a 3/4 bred collie lurcher over her . If she a terrier type lurcher cross her with a 3/4 bred terrier type lurcher. Minimum gene pool minimum wastage. Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Thanks for the replies lads,dont think hes changing his hunting,Think its more he already changed his hunting to suit this bitch,Theres little point him walking around in the day with her unless its in cover where her nose takes her to were stuffs lying.From what ive seen of her sure she can run ,she somtimes needs a good blow just to warm up,but she can cover some ground just to catch one rabbit,where as if she was a stride faster she could end it faster. Interesting, shes a work horse ferret all day then lamp do it again next day.Only when you add her totals for the season and compare them to what you think of as a decent dog do you realise she has somthing maybe. Quote Link to post
TOMO 29,684 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Is it a collie grey,,,,, if so I would go for a whip/grey,,,, or a pure whipp 1 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 If she were a stride faster then she'd also need an excellent strike. Not saying that she hasn't got a good strike, but a very fast dog needs correspondingly lightening reactions and strike, and do it all at speed: in other words, it has to be the whole package. No point just adding speed if the dog to be used isn't top notch in other departments. 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 If she were a stride faster then she'd also need an excellent strike. Not saying that she hasn't got a good strike, but a very fast dog needs correspondingly lightening reactions and strike, and do it all at speed: in other words, it has to be the whole package. No point just adding speed if the dog to be used isn't top notch in other departments. I almost said a similar thing yesterday but couldnt quite word it properly without causing possible offence! I was going to say that by adding speed, that then requires other things such as striking and turning at that speed. She may be able to strike and turn okay at low speed but to do that at high speed is different. Just something to think about i guess. Gaz Quote Link to post
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