FAO SNOOPDOG(DESERT BRED SALUKI)

[Simoman 110]

Nice looking bunch meerihunter :thumbs-up: Snoop, I knoiw what you mean about running on sand, last summer on Mablethorpe beach I tried running down an ice cream van............

[Guest mush]

I might not be up to date, but I think I had the information some months ago that dogs from EU countried that were either born there or approved to stay in that country for over 6 months do not require the quarantine when enetring the UK (I assume this was the main problem?). About any other required tests I do not know. There are few DB hounds around Europe now (among them me and my last two pups in Romania, Micaela in Finland, in Sweden and some Iraqi dogs in Germany) and I am sure it would be possible to bring over to the UK some new dogs. I suppose you will have to check out the special papers needed. I am just sending now one of my girls to Durban, there they asked for mainly many papers and some blood tests so it shouldn't be more than that in the UK (the papers and blood test will prevent the need of staying in a quarantine).

It will be bit harder than having been in a EU country for six months, they have to have been chipped witha approved chip before their jabed. Heres a site that tells you all about it and what countries are approved for the pet passport. http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/index.htm

Edited June 17, 2007 by mush

[juckler123 707]

Hows about importing sperm to use on a bitch in season i would have thought this was possible nowadays and would be a lot cheaper option.

[gavmac 0]

Ruah Midbar,

 

Cracking looking hounds I have been watching your clips on you tube you can see my Saluki's if you search 'lazylurchers'.

 

For anyone to doubt the quality of CCO Saluki's they obviously don't have a clue, with thousand upon thousands of years of selection behind them living and hunting in some of the harshest places on the planet they are one of the most awesome predators on the planet. Nothing can match a saluki for speed and stamina over rough terrain and that is without taken the heat into account.

 

UK Salukis are in desperate need of fresh blood. My own Salukis are all so very closely bred that is worrying for the future.

Cmon now fella but" the most awsome predators on the planet" ive been on this site for not very long I know very little about desert bred salukis but im quite knowledgable about dogs in general and that is one of the best lines ive heard yet .....

They might be good at what they do but if your going to breed of untested stock in doesnt mean nothing if there has been thousands of years good breeding .

You will loose all that in a few generations and your desert salukis will become nothing more than smooth coated Afgan hounds in a few years that are no good for nothing but parading around a show ring .

Just my opinion

Edited June 18, 2007 by gavmac

[Ruah Midbar 0]

You will loose all that in a few generations and your desert salukis will become nothing more than smooth coated Afgan hounds in a few years that are no good for nothing but parading around a show ring .

Just my opinion

 

Well then, lucky me that my hounds are not smooth but feathered and that they still can catch me my hare every once in a while when we go on the hunt

 

You can lose a good working line by breeding it not for that character or ability, same for racing greys, any hunting breeds, sled Malamutes and so on. Not only Salukis will be damaged if they will be bred for the wrong thing, this is why I personally, really don't like the show lines as "breeders" made “Barbieâ€s out of them instead of that "working machine" they were born to be; a Hound to catch the meal for the family, be a friend and also watch over the territory from strangers.

 

M.

[Meerihunter 7]

Juckler, I have often thought the importing of frozen semen, I guess the problem would be getting transported at a suitable temparature so that it would still be of use when it arrived. Again because I am not in any immediate need for anymore Salukis just now I havn't seriously looked into it.

 

Gavmac

Cmon now fella but" the most awsome predators on the planet"

 

You missed the "one of" out of the quote.

 

I'll openly admit that I am totally hooked on Salukis for life, I'll never keep anything else.

 

Salukis are very close in hunting ability to cape hunting dogs, Saluki's being slightly faster.Its a fact that Cape Hunting Dogs are one of the world most efficient predator Hunt/kill ratio wise. you only have to look to the match/coursing lads and their saluki/saluki hybrids course/kill ratio's. Awesome is the word that comes to mind

 

They might be good at what they do but if your going to breed of untested stock in doesnt mean nothing if there has been thousands of years good breeding .

You will loose all that in a few generations and your desert salukis will become nothing more than smooth coated Afgan hounds in a few years that are no good for nothing but parading around a show ring .

 

You are quite right you may well loose coursing/hunting ability in a few generation I personally think the thousands of years of breeding for these qualities would provide a good buffer to protect these qualities against one or two generation of slection based purely on conformation, I think you might be surprised by how many show bred Saluki could still perform well in the field if given the right upbringing. However that is not we are talking about here, we are talking about 1st and 2nd generation desert breds.

 

Just my opinion

 

And that was my opinion

[gavmac 0]

No problem fella I can see there is no convincing you but facts are if you breed with untested stock whether it is dogs, birds or horses you will loose working ability .

It can take many many of generations of good blood and breeding to get the stock you want but it only takes 1 bad generation to ruin it and that s fact not an opinion

 

Ive heard of the great white shark ,peregrine falcon or a siberian leopard described as the ulimate predator

but not a desert saluki

Regards

Gavin

[whin 463]

ive never been in to theoatrical dreamers been a more sort of lets do it type, if i thought them the ultimate predators i would have them as i have the contacts over in the usa , if that was my forty for what we need in the uk the pure saluk is certanly not ,even tho i do like them ,as i say there shall be some saluks who are good but many who are not so good as ive saw them gettting out paced with good jack rabbits and winter hares , and we all dont have a desert to run on , hence the good ole lurcher , if you like showing ,a bit of hunting and talking to other pure breed dog breeders and pure breeds then the saluk is a good dog , but our terrain smaller feilds at times doesnt always suit , for some its whats in the bag and for many years thats all and some others were into . make a few bucks and a good feed , give me a good lurcher any time ,all the best as i says i respect the saluk , but not the ultimate pred for me , ive got an ole collie cross here in her prime and for killling fetching game you would have had to have two or more saluks to fill her boots , and she done it in public many times , roe rabbit hares phesis foxes , all i all i think the saluk is a worth while dog to have around , ps i know a few people who import sperm as they were coming to the uk to get some from hounds and running dogs , it can be done