gonetoearth 5,144 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Gnasher the whole bike racing world and the aunties knew what GB were going todo and played to it at first the what the call independent went fo it the Aussie went with them Bradley had committed. To helping cav as he helped him win the tour , I know it all sounds mad but thats it. They got beat by there own tactics simple The whole boxing world knows Mike Tyson would come out to take your head off in the first round........Holyfield adjusted his own tactics in anticipation of his opponents tactics............................................the psycological battle is all part of competetive sport mate regardless what sport it is. . Cav is a sprinter , wiggins is a road racer. Long distance / time trail specialist. If wiggins had have left him he might of won they made a team pact bud simple as that it failed. Up wards and on wards you will see a different wiggins on his own. Your in box is full gnasher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Well ive read the replies and i'm still left scratching my head. As Gnasher says why would another group competeing to win help the GB team in anyway. The way i see it is the GB team saw the front runners decide to go, they then have a decision to make as to push on or sit back and hope the front runners fade. Looked to me like they were burnt out.......exactly what the reporter said after the race to Cavendish and to be honest he answered like a right knobhead...... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,657 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 The way i see it is the GB team saw the front runners decide to go, they then have a decision to make as to push on or sit back and hope the front runners fade. Totally agree mate not rocket science is it.....the principal of " a race " means the one who finishes first wins and the others......dont !............however you go about crossing the line first is up to you long as its within the rules......if no rules are broken whats their to moan about. Its like a 10,000 metre track race......the pacemaker gets so far in front he go,s on to win the race because the favorites didnt chase him...............whos faults that the winners 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cragman 2,892 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 But why should ANY team not just GB have to rely on help from teams you are competing against ...... Gnasher, in this case, because between four team members, it's impossible to pull back a break that's six minutes clear on their own over such a distance. In the TDF teams are nine strong so it's easier to get a break back. There were four GB lads towing everyone along yesterday, and twenty odd guys in the break, all taking shorter turns on the front, going like f**k, it's a no brainer. Other teams should have had an interest in getting their sprinter to the line in this race. If any other of our lads bar Cav, had got into the break, I'd have put money on them winning the race. Perhaps they should have raced it as individuals. Cav's more of a multi stage racer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 1,363 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 One big problem for GB is Cavendish is too good. Normally a few countries would have sprinters good enough to have a chance at gold in the Sprint and they would co-operate to ensure a sprint finish. With him in the race no ones does. They could only have hoped for a silver. GB have the best sprinter to ever have live, what else should they have raced for but a sprint finish? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 One big problem for GB is Cavendish is too good. Normally a few countries would have sprinters good enough to have a chance at gold in the Sprint and they would co-operate to ensure a sprint finish. With him in the race no ones does. They could only have hoped for a silver. GB have the best sprinter to ever have live, what else should they have raced for but a sprint finish? But why would any other country want to have a sprint finish then? If i was up against the best sprint finisher in the world i dont think i'd be setting one up for him would you? If he was the best in the world surely he would work out how far the race is, what place in the course he wanted to be a a certain time and if someone pushed on and beat him then fairs fair. After his comments at the end of the race i'm glad he never won actually, maybe he needs a reality check..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,657 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Gnasher, in this case, because between four team members, it's impossible to pull back a break that's six minutes clear on their own over such a distance. In the TDF teams are nine strong so it's easier to get a break back. There were four GB lads towing everyone along yesterday, and twenty odd guys in the break, all taking shorter turns on the front, going like f**k, it's a no brainer. Other teams should have had an interest in getting their sprinter to the line in this race. If any other of our lads bar Cav, had got into the break, I'd have put money on them winning the race. Perhaps they should have raced it as individuals. Cav's more of a multi stage racer I get what you lads are saying and thanks for explaining it ...... I still find it hard to make an excuse for Cavendish though..... psycology is a big part of all sport......and it seems like our lads were totally out thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 4,027 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 He is well known for it bud. Any way he got beat not in any more races so he not British any more he is MANX lol lol Ah! That explains it. Yes thats right he is Manx .... but when he wins stages at the Tour De France (23 so far) it seems he is British Same as Bradley Wiggins , he is Belgium born , so any chance off you lot getting your own WINNER ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 He is well known for it bud. Any way he got beat not in any more races so he not British any more he is MANX lol lol Ah! That explains it. Yes thats right he is Manx .... but when he wins stages at the Tour De France (23 so far) it seems he is British Same as Bradley Wiggins , he is Belgium born , so any chance off you lot getting your own WINNER ???? The guy said "English team" yesterday but quickly changed to GB...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SINDASOX 257 Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 What a Fantastic Womens Road Race today, really enjoyed it....Superb. SINDASOX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocky1 942 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 very disapointed after a great tour hopfully wiggins wins the timetrail and do well in the veladrum and also welldone on the womens roadrace our first medel in the game a silver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 He is well known for it bud. Any way he got beat not in any more races so he not British any more he is MANX lol lol Ah! That explains it. Yes thats right he is Manx .... but when he wins stages at the Tour De France (23 so far) it seems he is British Same as Bradley Wiggins , he is Belgium born , so any chance off you lot getting your own WINNER ???? ha ha ha I knew you would jump on that. Like a mackerel on feathers. Lol lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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