Rook food?

[Guest MOLLY]

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MOLL.

[Guest MOLLY]

And then there was 1.

Only Roger left now, he wont entertain dog or cat food, im thinking probably because he is not a young orphan and is used to certain foods?

He cannot survive on egg alone, his poo is now egg coloured

Today ive dug the garden with him perched on my left index finger, eating all the worms i could find, twiddleing with my bracelet or jacket inbetween, he loves woodlouse, small slugs and flies. Wont entertain leather jackets or maggots? But typically when im trying to find them i cannot find many woodlouse.

I had a walk around the barns looking for anything i could find, and there were a load of sluggish flies all over the walls, ive now got a point and slip Rook , just outstretched my arm to where the flies were and he picked them off by the dozen.

Will a diet of mainly egg and worms with the occasional wood louse and fly be enough to sustain him?

MOLL.

 

 

 

 

[Guest baldie]

Judging by some of the replies on this thread, makes me wonder how many actually know anything about the rook? Apart from adult birds digging up sprouting wheat, tell me what other damage they actually do? dont give me the bollocks, they are nest robbers, etc etc, thats crows.I wonder how many can actually tell the difference? Rooks do far more good than harm, removing a lot of pests from the soil, some that probarbly cant be sprayed for, now.Rook shoots were traditionally done, for the young birds breast meat, thats why the adults were left, they are bitter tasting, and thats where the nursery rhyme, "4 and 20 blackbirds, baked in a pie" comes from.

Good for you Moll, i hope they make it, anyone who has no compassion, for a young starving animal, or bird, regardless, of what it is, isnt a countryman/woman for me.

Just because a bird is a member of the corvid family, doesnt automatically mean it should be destroyed every time the chance arises. I will only shoot rooks on drilled barley, thats the only damage they do. Why shoot jays?, they are on the list?, yes they take the odd egg, but mainly live on acorns. Attention is far better focussed on the families real villains, the carrion crow, and magpie.

[snoopdog 1,256]

well said baldie spot on ....even tho i did have a pet crow when i was a youngster does it really matter if sombody wants to save an injured bird no matter what sort it is i think if you are a hunter you have to respect what you hunt and what you dont hunt ..wildlife is a wonderful thing and i reackon most of us who hunt was brought up to save somthing in distress ....well done moll keep it up perhaps some of you folks should try sitting and watching for a while instead of pointing a gun a it .. i know for a fact i can go out with my dogs and sit somwhere quite and watch wildlife and come home just as satisfied as i would of been if i would of nailed a few things ... happy hunting and happy watching

[Guest MOLLY]

Thanks very much both of you, really is appretiated

I still dont know if what i am doing is right or wrong or various reasons, normally i do pts any injured birds i find. But this time something told me to at least try. And try i shall to the best of my ability.

Perhaps because the rook has always been my favourite corvid, something as ugly as that yet wearing pantaloons gets my vote

MOLL.

[fish 148]

Back in Portsmouth, where I was born and raised, there's a place called Alexandra Park. Right on the roadside, on the southern side, there used to be a row of massive tall trees. Had a Rookery in those. Then, one day, they cut all the trees down. Gone for ever. As are the rooks. But then, we used to have the annual Gypsy Fair there too. Another thing known to my parents and their parents, like the Rookery. Now long since gone. Nuke the whole f*cking place now, as far as I'm concerned. Nothing left there worth shit.

i remember that rookery ditch first lot of trees as you left stamshore

[Born Hunter 17,909]

Thanks very much both of you, really is appretiated

I still dont know if what i am doing is right or wrong or various reasons, normally i do pts any injured birds i find. But this time something told me to at least try. And try i shall to the best of my ability.

Perhaps because the rook has always been my favourite corvid, something as ugly as that yet wearing pantaloons gets my vote

MOLL.

 

dont know if this is much help to ya moll? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rook_%28bird%29

 

its got a section on the diet of rooks, you seem to be doing well by it, maybe add some sorta cereal crop to its diet as well?

[alimac 882]

baldie, as iv said i / we spend a thousand pounds or more planting game cover every year, so your saying i should sit and watch the branchers grow old and then grub up all my plots dont make me laugh... your right there not the most prolific egg stealers/ chick snatchers but they DO do it, so if every 10 or even 100 i shoot saves 1 pheashant then im totaly justified in what i do..... molly is entitled to do what she is, it shows that not all us hunting folk are totally blinkered towards death, but it dont mean that what i / we do is wrong..... or you going to tell me different

[Guest MOLLY]

Thank you BH.

Anyone know where i can get cultivated cereal grain, and what do i ask for

Ive been putting the wild bird seed stuff in the aviary, he's definately scraping it about, but im not sure if he is eating it or not?

MOLL.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

That's the one, Fisher! Ever catch the Fair down there, mate? I saw it as a nipper. My only memory of it is these flashing tan leather boots with a panal of dark elastic up the side. They seemed to be everywhere. Dashing alongside painted flat bed carts or else hanging off the edges of them. Funny thing; I was too young then to even know what day it was. But I knew I wanted to wear those boots! Genes are the damndest thing, eh?

 

 

Moll; If ye remember what I told Fastdogz, under her road hacker thread; Three days and three nights. That's the rule I've learned to adhere to love. No matter how well they might appear to be doing, they still have a tendancy to suddenly go over during that period. Ye not out of the woods yet. Just do ye best for the little ..... err ..... mite

 

 

Millet, el Bald and Snoop have said it. I think it just comes with mental maturity, myself. When I need to kill something these days, I feel nothing.

[Born Hunter 17,909]

Thank you BH.

Anyone know where i can get cultivated cereal grain, and what do i ask for

Ive been putting the wild bird seed stuff in the aviary, he's definately scraping it about, but im not sure if he is eating it or not?

MOLL.

 

i know of pig farmers that have cereal grain all year round for making pig meal (i think), shed loads of it. you could maybe try and find a pig farmer and ask for a bucket full? shouldn't think a bucket full would go amiss. just a thort, good luck

[Guest MOLLY]

Good idea mate we often see them on the sheep trough's after the sheep have been put away.. they go around picking all the left over's up which is a good thing as they keep the rat food out the way.. ..

Molly will have to see the farmer for a hand full of cattle cake to see if that tickles the taste bud's ..

Millet

Tried....not interested, remember it only knows what the parents fed it. Are there any pig farmers near you, cos i dont know any here?

MOLL.

 

Moll; If ye remember what I told Fastdogz, under her road hacker thread; Three days and three nights. That's the rule I've learned to adhere to love. No matter how well they might appear to be doing, they still have a tendancy to suddenly go over during that period. Ye not out of the woods yet. Just do ye best for the little ..... err ..... mite

Sometimes even longer, i think Bertie (hedgehog) lasted nearly 2mths.

Ralfs already gone, this little blighter has been the bigger fighter from day 1...so fingers crossed.

 

Just do ye best for the little ..... err ..... mite

:whistle:

MOLL.

[alimac 882]

Judging by some of the replies on this thread, makes me wonder how many actually know anything about the rook? Apart from adult birds digging up sprouting wheat, tell me what other damage they actually do? dont give me the bollocks, they are nest robbers, etc etc, thats crows.I wonder how many can actually tell the difference? Rooks do far more good than harm, removing a lot of pests from the soil, some that probarbly cant be sprayed for, now.Rook shoots were traditionally done, for the young birds breast meat, thats why the adults were left, they are bitter tasting, and thats where the nursery rhyme, "4 and 20 blackbirds, baked in a pie" comes from.

Good for you Moll, i hope they make it, anyone who has no compassion, for a young starving animal, or bird, regardless, of what it is, isnt a countryman/woman for me.

Just because a bird is a member of the corvid family, doesnt automatically mean it should be destroyed every time the chance arises. I will only shoot rooks on drilled barley, thats the only damage they do. Why shoot jays?, they are on the list?, yes they take the odd egg, but mainly live on acorns. Attention is far better focussed on the families real villains, the carrion crow, and magpie.

Absolutley 100% spot on with that mate and i could not agree more.. ..

Rook's are not vermin in my eye's they may play a small part in the destruction of crop's and the odd bit of other stuff but they dont deserve to be slaughtered in the mindless way they are..

I know farmer's spray crop's for the worst offender's of them all that are below ground.. but do these pretend or real keeper's spray.. ..

Do they sit out at night and day keeping check on the voles/rabbit/hare/deer/partridge/pheasant/pigeon.ect.. that will do more damage if on the land than any coloney rook's could ever do.. some dedicated lad's/keeper's might do a good job keeping damaging species to a low number but a lot would rather go for the easy option and shoot a load of young stuff that can not even fly..

Soley for the benefit of themself so they look good in the land owner's shaded eyes.. but in reality the underlining problem has not been dealt with.. ..

Cheer's

Millet

 

so then millet if you want to go into what we / i spray on my cover crops i will happly do so, butisan before its drilled and trefalan two days after for weeds / grasses another for docks and thistles, pesticides for flea beetle etc the list goes on so before you start having a dig , get you facts right, i remember you having a go at sean the hawker for doing what you are here on this thread.. at the end of the day if i spend the bosses money helping the game cover best i can with sprays etc and then let a f*****g bunch of rooks rip it up im out of a job end off.... I have high seats at all but one of my plots to shoot deer, rabbits etc and am always inviting beaters up to shoot woodies when i see them starting to work a plot... and yes i do take the easy option on shooting the rooks as branchers as it saves on my time... suppose its like you taking the easy option of deleting the thread yesterday and not having the manners to explain why that one was any different to the many threads that have gone un deleted in the general talk section... apart from that people had a dig at you , dont tell me you goin to delete this one to or just throw me off the site for speaking my mind.... i look forward to your replie...........

[Guest MOLLY]

Can i politely ask that arguments from elsewhere not get brought into this thread

I really need all the help and advice i can about this subject, i want to do it right for the sake of the bird, so i dont want to have to, but i will ask for the whole thing to be deleted if it continues, because im sick to death of all of the arguing and back biting here again. Take it to another section/thread please.

Many thanks.

MOLL.

[Guest baldie]

baldie, as iv said i / we spend a thousand pounds or more planting game cover every year, so your saying i should sit and watch the branchers grow old and then grub up all my plots dont make me laugh... your right there not the most prolific egg stealers/ chick snatchers but they DO do it, so if every 10 or even 100 i shoot saves 1 pheashant then im totaly justified in what i do..... molly is entitled to do what she is, it shows that not all us hunting folk are totally blinkered towards death, but it dont mean that what i / we do is wrong..... or you going to tell me different

 

 

So you believe that the death of a 100 rooks is worth it to save one pheasant do you?

I,ve known dozens of keepers over the years, and sadly , most of them think like you, you and your sort belong with the victorians, and their methods of vermin control, and its you, and your sort, that will see game shooting banned. it is no secret, on here, that i,ve no time whatsoever for game shooters, or keepers, you fuckers didn,t support the hunts, before or after the ban, so dont bleat on to me about livelyhoods. Game shootings house, is f*****g well out of order, and always has been, think on, i,m on the inside, and i know full well what goes on........