hedz31 1,308 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 how much weight have you lost so far lab,,,?? pm if youd prefer He has lost 7 stone he is now down to 21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 how much weight have you lost so far lab,,,?? pm if youd prefer None.... Lol but really I'm not wanting to loose that much or really anything. Im just trying to get a bit bigger then start toning. But I'm defo getting fitter as the I've went up three levels on the bike already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huwidge 69 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 For rugby we are told if we want to bulk we have to eat like fu*k and work hard. When in the gym for strength you need to do 5 reps in a set, for bulking you do 8 reps a set and to tone up do about 12-15 reps a set. What many people don't understand that you diet is just as important as working out. Eat loads of good healthy food. Lots of protein and lots of carbs. And a hydrated body is important to keep drinking plenty of water. With shakes and that I take 2 maybe 3 a day depending what I have eaten. And creatin about 30mins before working out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huwidge 69 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I also have a weeks diet plan example that the welsh U18s rugby team use so anybody wants a look at it pm me an I can try send it you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I also have a weeks diet plan example that the welsh U18s rugby team use so anybody wants a look at it pm me an I can try send it you. I'm sure there's a few on here that would rather have photos of the Welsh U18's ........... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nitestalker 28 209 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 I don't care what any internet expert or fitnesd guru says, you need to do CORE lifts, The following exercises are the biggest and best, Don't just try to build up biceps and triceps or you'll look like one of them twats with big arms and puny everything else. Do Bench Press (builds chest and triceps) Overhead Press (also called military press) Squats (one of the biggest and best lifts to do. Increased production of your testosterone and HGH) Deadlifts ( a massive core lift) Barbell bent over rows Look up a routine called Starting Strength. Read it properly and in detail do not just skip through it. Eat about 1 gram of protein for every lb of your LEAN body mass. You will gain results all over and look better than someone who does 10 different types of bicep curls everyday of the week. good advice mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,379 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Cheers I'll check that. My mate has been going for 2 years now and his arms are slot bigger than he used to be that's for sure. I reckon he is lifting 10kg more than me on most weight excercises.When you say intensity do you mean 2hrs at the gym 3 times a week or what? I do push myself when I'm there, especially when the both of us are pushing the other on, but I don't slack when I'm myself either. Cheers for the tips though. Ive seen over the years you just cant take on an intermediate or advanced lifters mentality when your only a beginner.......the biggest downfall for most beginners is boredom.....they get far too hung up on diet and obssess over things an advanced lifter should be obssessing over.....and then when they dont see immediate results they get downhearted about it because they have done so much research on the finer parts of the sport without first concentrating on the basics...... You cant possibly be lifting to full intensity 5 times per week its physically impossible.......what that means is subconsciously you are probably just going through the motions on some sets just to achieve the required numbers......when in reality if you halved the amount of time your in the gym but during that time you attacked it with maximum intensity,you might not be able to walk the next day,but your getting far more benefit........at the beginners stage patience is the key.......dont bore yourself knocking 4 specific sets out just because thats whats written on a bit of paper,listen to your body nobody feels the same every day your going to have days where you just dont feel up to it,dont stress have a day off.........training intensity,the vigour you put into a workout is more important than a half hearted session.Ideally you should be looking to work a bodypart every 72 - 96 hours......thats ample time for tissue breakdown and repair,stick to that basic philosophy and you wont go far wrong....... We used to have a couple of signs up 1.If its not nailed down......eat it ! 2.If you can drive home you havent trained hard enough ! Best of luck. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lloyd90 509 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Like I said mate check out that Starting Strength 5x5 Program (Just google it, its a free download) , I know people who have been training for years and I have done the same but have seen more results just doing core basic big lifts often than doing 20 different types of bicep curls. Also alot of good advice, as it says dont train every single day, when your training the muscle fibre's are torn, its on the days you rest your body is using the protein you eat to attach them together, thats how they get bigger, get enough sleep, like I said ATLEAST 1g per Lean body mass and lots of water/ Best of luck mate Edited February 22, 2012 by Bigthug87 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mexlad 189 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 iv never understood the one when people say no carbs after such a time say 8 pm so if you have had 1500 calories though the day and then have another 500 at 8 pm you still have only had 2000 calories what the difference if you eat them before 8. atb mexlad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lloyd90 509 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 iv never understood the one when people say no carbs after such a time say 8 pm so if you have had 1500 calories though the day and then have another 500 at 8 pm you still have only had 2000 calories what the difference if you eat them before 8. atb mexlad There is no difference mate. Its 2000 calories a day no matter when you eat it. Its just one of those myths people come up with. Same as you can only have 30g of protein at a time. I know people who have done the "warrior diet" where you only have 1 meal a day , so they have upto 200g a protein in 1 meal and they do fine doing it. There's so much info out there that's totally un founded its quite funny when you see people preech it when they only read it 5 minutes ago. Also like people saying you MUST eat "clean foods" to lose weight. what is "clean" foods ? ... I eat Mcdonald's regularly on a cut and still lose weight, end of the day a burger is made of of protein, fats amd carbs same as anything else. I can see how eating "clean" helps as you avoid the temptation of over eating but if your ok you can eat whatever you want, thats how you see these people who say " I lose 5 stone eating nothing but Subway" so everyone thinks its healthy lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,379 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 iv never understood the one when people say no carbs after such a time say 8 pm so if you have had 1500 calories though the day and then have another 500 at 8 pm you still have only had 2000 calories what the difference if you eat them before 8. atb mexlad Its a myth that seems to have hung around for years mate.......the theory used to be that later in the day ( rest time for want of a better word ) would result in the storage of every calorie you ate.......but the metabolic rate our body processes nutrients DOES NOT change throughout the day....eat carbs as late as you like,yes you will wake up heavier in the morning but thats due to the water content rather than the carb itself.......unless your a high level endurance athlete theres absolutely no reason to time your carbs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,379 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 There is no difference mate. Its 2000 calories a day no matter when you eat it. Its just one of those myths people come up with. Same as you can only have 30g of protein at a time. I know people who have done the "warrior diet" where you only have 1 meal a day , so they have upto 200g a protein in 1 meal and they do fine doing it. There's so much info out there that's totally un founded its quite funny when you see people preech it when they only read it 5 minutes ago. I agree with much of what you say mate......but you cant argue with scientific evidence.............yes you can take in 200g protein in one meal but the majority of it is going to end up in the toilet !........thats not opinion thats basic human nutrition........nobody training naturally will benefit from 200g protein in 1 meal.....thats a fact. And ive had a little more than 5 minutes in the game 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 There is no difference mate. Its 2000 calories a day no matter when you eat it. Its just one of those myths people come up with. Same as you can only have 30g of protein at a time. I know people who have done the "warrior diet" where you only have 1 meal a day , so they have upto 200g a protein in 1 meal and they do fine doing it. There's so much info out there that's totally un founded its quite funny when you see people preech it when they only read it 5 minutes ago. I agree with much of what you say mate......but you cant argue with scientific evidence.............yes you can take in 200g protein in one meal but the majority of it is going to end up in the toilet !........thats not opinion thats basic human nutrition........nobody training naturally will benefit from 200g protein in 1 meal.....thats a fact. And ive had a little more than 5 minutes in the game 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 how much weight have you lost so far lab,,,?? pm if youd prefer Tomo, do you still want me to keep these old jeans for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lloyd90 509 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) There is no difference mate. Its 2000 calories a day no matter when you eat it. Its just one of those myths people come up with. Same as you can only have 30g of protein at a time. I know people who have done the "warrior diet" where you only have 1 meal a day , so they have upto 200g a protein in 1 meal and they do fine doing it. There's so much info out there that's totally un founded its quite funny when you see people preech it when they only read it 5 minutes ago. I agree with much of what you say mate......but you cant argue with scientific evidence.............yes you can take in 200g protein in one meal but the majority of it is going to end up in the toilet !........thats not opinion thats basic human nutrition........nobody training naturally will benefit from 200g protein in 1 meal.....thats a fact. And ive had a little more than 5 minutes in the game lol dont want to ruin thread with argueing mate Just agree to disagree, I have seen it work for quite a few people. There's so much bullshite out there lol. There's lots of different things saying your can only use "insert number here" amount of grams of protein in 1 sitting, numbers always different. Just do what works for you Being honest tho am yet to see solid scientific evidence fully supporting much, Not saying its true but I just take it with a pinch of salt Edited February 22, 2012 by Bigthug87 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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