speedy1234 5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Here's a no brainer, over the course of the year:- Under 21" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood Under 23" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood Over 23" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood or possibly an umarked greyhound In other words anyone who wants to compete at the lurcher racing needs to keep an eye on the K9 non ped section to see whats being bred daz can i ask what your goin to race this year mate A non ped whippetxgreyhound. Hopefully she'll stay under 21". At 8 months she is 20 3/4". She was bought to be a wee rabbiting dog and to race at the odd show. Some people will argue that it's a longdog and not a lurcher depending on who's definition you choose as to what a lurcher is. In my opinion anyone who seriously wants to compete at the lurcher racing needs non ped whippet/greyhound blood. Third time lucky lol Dazzam i have tryed a couple of times today to comment here but using my phone and had problems so here goes for a third time.First of all the best of luck with your wee dog good to see you getting back into it, i would agree with the point you are making about the whippet x greyhounds being the breading for winning races and on the right ground they make great wee rabbiting dogs>But heres were the problem starts its all in the name these dogs have picked up NON PEDS these dogs are lurchers or long dogs as you have stated yourself by no means are they whippets even with only 1/16 greyhound in them they will still usualy out perform a full whippet.So i think you will agree the solution to the ongoing debate about these dogs would be for the organisers of the racing to introduce a whippet type lurcher race and have three lurcher races instead of two as i think tango has already said but the important bit for people to rember is these dogs in question are NOT whippets and should NOT be confused as whippets.I had a dog in the past that fell into this bracket and to be honest i would not of wanted to race it with under 23 lurchers but then we did not have the numbers of whippets attending the shows as we do now so the class was called a whippet type lurcher race but with the number of whippets and the number of non peds( for the want of a better word )i think two seperate races would work well for everyone, with no need for papers and a lot less ill feeling among the whippet people and the lurcher people> go on someone give it a go ...................Glen doc this is my attempt to please a few glen and i will modifiy it next time round where i can hope you and the gang can make it Tango you have me a bit confused you say your trying to please a few the way i see it the only ones you are plaseing are the ones that cheated in the first place the ones that put there under 21 inches dogs in the whippet race cause they knew the couldnt win in the under 23 inch class so your taking away the whippet class and replaceing it with a under 21 class is just giving them the chance to race and the whippets having to do without, dont get this at all . You also say that if you were to do a paper only class you would only get three dogs so why are you having showing for them whippets if you think only three whippets will turn up or will you welcome the full whippets with no papers in to this ring if so why not the racing ? DONT SEE WHY MY WHIPPETS SHOULD HAVE TO RACE WITH LURCHERS WHEN THEY ARE SHOW IN TOO DIFFERENT RINGS . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
up the beam 65 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 You are half [bANNED TEXT] in wat you say mavric it is very hard to tell in a lot of cases if a dog has greyhound blood in it until they run that is, this is why we need a proper class for people with small lurchers then they would not feel the need to race with whippets. Also when whippets were first used for racing and coursing by the miners as a past time they ranged from 18-22 inchs and this was before any kc records were held.I totally agree with you that papers are unreliable and in my opinion have no place at these shows and fairs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tango 221 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 speedy this topic isnt solely about my show,as i said before i cant prove the breeding of anyones dog but my own so i will grade the dogs as best i can which is height,showing wise if youve a whippet you will have no bother in the ring as the judge i have planned knows his stuff,ive my own whippet here standing 18tts and shes one of the smallest about and id have no problem running in under 21,when i said about three it meant about three people would bring papers with them.if on the day you see a dog on the start line that you think isnt a whippet then call me and i will deal with it there and then as i think thats a big part of the problem that its not sorted on the day, i cant do much more than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speedy1234 5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 speedy this topic isnt solely about my show,as i said before i cant prove the breeding of anyones dog but my own so i will grade the dogs as best i can which is height,showing wise if youve a whippet you will have no bother in the ring as the judge i have planned knows his stuff,ive my own whippet here standing 18tts and shes one of the smallest about and id have no problem running in under 21,when i said about three it meant about three people would bring papers with them.if on the day you see a dog on the start line that you think isnt a whippet then call me and i will deal with it there and then as i think thats a big part of the problem that its not sorted on the day, i cant do much more than that. I know that this topic isnt just about your show but your show is one of the first shows this year and im worried that everyone else is going to follow in your footsteps and leave the whippet racing out of there shows to . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 787 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 tango empty your in box please Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tango 221 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 im always open to suggestions speedy if anyone can think of a better way to do it that wont take a lifetime to run then let me know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeview 787 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 speedy this topic isnt solely about my show,as i said before i cant prove the breeding of anyones dog but my own so i will grade the dogs as best i can which is height,showing wise if youve a whippet you will have no bother in the ring as the judge i have planned knows his stuff,ive my own whippet here standing 18tts and shes one of the smallest about and id have no problem running in under 21,when i said about three it meant about three people would bring papers with them.if on the day you see a dog on the start line that you think isnt a whippet then call me and i will deal with it there and then as i think thats a big part of the problem that its not sorted on the day, i cant do much more than that. I know that this topic isnt just about your show but your show is one of the first shows this year and im worried that everyone else is going to follow in your footsteps and leave the whippet racing out of there shows to . speedy1234 I was under the impression this topic was about keeping whippets,non-peds and unmarked greyhounds out of the lurcher races at lurcher and terrier shows,by all let the whippets, non-peds and greyhounds have a race against themselves like lurchers used to Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post Share on other sites
up the beam 65 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Leeview I think you have picked it up wrong the issue is about small lurchers being raced as whippets because people have been miss- sold them or they just don't want to race them with the under 23s. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
threedognight 25 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Here's a no brainer, over the course of the year:- Under 21" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood Under 23" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood Over 23" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood or possibly an umarked greyhound In other words anyone who wants to compete at the lurcher racing needs to keep an eye on the K9 non ped section to see whats being bred daz can i ask what your goin to race this year mate A non ped whippetxgreyhound. Hopefully she'll stay under 21". At 8 months she is 20 3/4". She was bought to be a wee rabbiting dog and to race at the odd show. Some people will argue that it's a longdog and not a lurcher depending on who's definition you choose as to what a lurcher is. In my opinion anyone who seriously wants to compete at the lurcher racing needs non ped whippet/greyhound blood. Third time lucky lol Dazzam i have tryed a couple of times today to comment here but using my phone and had problems so here goes for a third time.First of all the best of luck with your wee dog good to see you getting back into it, i would agree with the point you are making about the whippet x greyhounds being the breading for winning races and on the right ground they make great wee rabbiting dogs>But heres were the problem starts its all in the name these dogs have picked up NON PEDS these dogs are lurchers or long dogs as you have stated yourself by no means are they whippets even with only 1/16 greyhound in them they will still usualy out perform a full whippet.So i think you will agree the solution to the ongoing debate about these dogs would be for the organisers of the racing to introduce a whippet type lurcher race and have three lurcher races instead of two as i think tango has already said but the important bit for people to rember is these dogs in question are NOT whippets and should NOT be confused as whippets.I had a dog in the past that fell into this bracket and to be honest i would not of wanted to race it with under 23 lurchers but then we did not have the numbers of whippets attending the shows as we do now so the class was called a whippet type lurcher race but with the number of whippets and the number of non peds( for the want of a better word )i think two seperate races would work well for everyone, with no need for papers and a lot less ill feeling among the whippet people and the lurcher people> go on someone give it a go ...................Glen doc ever thought of dividing it into rough and smooth coat classes thats how the top gun series is being run at the lurcher world events i thought it sounded a good idea for a comp ,most of the smooth coat workin dogs will give nonpeds a run for their money,anyway, good racing to all for the coming year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 549 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Here's a no brainer, over the course of the year:- Under 21" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood Under 23" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood Over 23" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood or possibly an umarked greyhound In other words anyone who wants to compete at the lurcher racing needs to keep an eye on the K9 non ped section to see whats being bred daz can i ask what your goin to race this year mate A non ped whippetxgreyhound. Hopefully she'll stay under 21". At 8 months she is 20 3/4". She was bought to be a wee rabbiting dog and to race at the odd show. Some people will argue that it's a longdog and not a lurcher depending on who's definition you choose as to what a lurcher is. In my opinion anyone who seriously wants to compete at the lurcher racing needs non ped whippet/greyhound blood. Could this perhaps be interpreted as the 'lurcher racing' at gamefairs is being taken too seriously? Surely 'lurcher racing' should be a bit of fun...........or maybe not? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danny300 2,240 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Here's a no brainer, over the course of the year:- Under 21" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood Under 23" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood Over 23" will be won by a non ped with greyhound blood or possibly an umarked greyhound In other words anyone who wants to compete at the lurcher racing needs to keep an eye on the K9 non ped section to see whats being bred daz can i ask what your goin to race this year mate A non ped whippetxgreyhound. Hopefully she'll stay under 21". At 8 months she is 20 3/4". She was bought to be a wee rabbiting dog and to race at the odd show. Some people will argue that it's a longdog and not a lurcher depending on who's definition you choose as to what a lurcher is. In my opinion anyone who seriously wants to compete at the lurcher racing needs non ped whippet/greyhound blood. Could this perhaps be interpreted as the 'lurcher racing' at gamefairs is being taken too seriously? Surely 'lurcher racing' should be a bit of fun...........or maybe not? its taken the fun out of it which is sad to see. what would be a good fun is seeing about 7 lurchers run at the same time at around the same height and depending on there height the bigger they are the bit longer they run and take the money out of it give a bag of meal to the winner at least it will be used. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speedy1234 5 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 speedy this topic isnt solely about my show,as i said before i cant prove the breeding of anyones dog but my own so i will grade the dogs as best i can which is height,showing wise if youve a whippet you will have no bother in the ring as the judge i have planned knows his stuff,ive my own whippet here standing 18tts and shes one of the smallest about and id have no problem running in under 21,when i said about three it meant about three people would bring papers with them.if on the day you see a dog on the start line that you think isnt a whippet then call me and i will deal with it there and then as i think thats a big part of the problem that its not sorted on the day, i cant do much more than that. But your not having a whippet race so of course there is going to be dogs on the starting line that are not whippets !!!!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Themaverick 110 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 tell you what how about we change the rules! let every body run in what every category they want and give the trophy and rosette to the dog that finishes last over the line!! it mite stop all the bitching about whats a whippet whats not a whippet, and peoples dogs being "too fast"!! lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 20,510 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 How about an under 23" and an over 23" ROUGH COATED races...and give the REAL Lurchers a chance ?? LOL !! (tongue in cheek, before all you Non-Ped and Greyhound owners jump all over me !). Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tango 221 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 speedy this topic isnt solely about my show,as i said before i cant prove the breeding of anyones dog but my own so i will grade the dogs as best i can which is height,showing wise if youve a whippet you will have no bother in the ring as the judge i have planned knows his stuff,ive my own whippet here standing 18tts and shes one of the smallest about and id have no problem running in under 21,when i said about three it meant about three people would bring papers with them.if on the day you see a dog on the start line that you think isnt a whippet then call me and i will deal with it there and then as i think thats a big part of the problem that its not sorted on the day, i cant do much more than that. I know that this topic isnt just about your show but your show is one of the first shows this year and im worried that everyone else is going to follow in your footsteps and leave the whippet racing out of there shows to . speedy you worry to much,other shows will do their own thing not follow me,the thing with being first is i get to try it first,if it works thats great but if it doesnt then i get slated and the other shows do it different.i dont mind taking a bit of stick but as an organizer and a whippet owner im sick of all the rubbish about racing whippets at a show.theres a few on here that do nothing but cry about this race or that dog or that lad but they never offer any solutions to it all,the only way i can see at the minute is bring your papers to race in the whippets if you dont have papers then if you want to enter in the class for the height for your dog or dogs then your welcome to do so,thats the only way i see it at the moment until theres a better way found yis tango 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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