whats the differance between a staghound & a deerhound

[whin 463]

ye therre some take them single handed but a big coyote is amean fighter so a pair or 3 gets job done quicker ,its not a contest butt here big dogs out there that will killa coyote and some that need help ,

[chartpolski 27,316]

Do these staghound work single handed on Coyotes or they doubled up?

 

 

Very nice pics btw

 

Dan Edwards would be the guy to ask, as he is the only guy I know on here who does Coyote regularly.

 

Cheers.

[the big chief 3,099]

the way things are sounding they seem to be a better allroud dog than our infamouse bull x

[whin 463]

of course they are or they would have bull croses there plenty pit bulls in america , there old guys i know out there d heiss etc who have hunted 40 years plus with coyote hounds , som eparts of the states its very cold ground very rough and dry and very big so you need agood striding animal to get to terms with them at times , get the book coyotes and canines very good read about the old west , or gazehounds and coursing they tell you al about the coyote hound

[the big chief 3,099]

cheers whin i think i'll just do that

[Guest sam]

the way things are sounding they seem to be a better allroud dog than our infamouse bull x

 

you got deer hound crosses,why dont you run yours against one and see for yourself

[lapin2008 1,587]

the way things are sounding they seem to be a better allroud dog than our infamouse bull x

 

Thing is though that the land and quarry they have out there is what they are suited to running, I suspect that just because a 27" stag hound that can catch coyotes on massive open plains from a 300 yard slip doesnt mean that they would be any cop on rabbits in small fields over here. In the same way as running a lurcher from over this side of the pond on a coyote would be pretty useless over there on coyotes.

 

We have all the ingredients over here to have dogs of similar caliber (for our land/quarry) as the US or Aussie stag hounds. the problem is everyone always focuses on f1 this and bullx that. If people only bred from fast, intelligent and tested dogs that were the absolute best they could lay their hands on then 20 odd generations down the road there would be some pretty special dogs about. As it is there is loads of shite because people keep breeding off shite, or think 'i know i will create my own line from scratch' by breeding 2 untested animals resulting in more f1 untested dogs flooding the market. Also people keep trying to recoup the cost they have laid out on failed dogs by selling them on then the quality of working dogs would also increase over time. Whereas abroad they are probably more inclined to cull.

[whin 463]

very true lapin first cross is a begginers dog usaly some young guy starting away , were a specalised lurcher to lurcher bred of winners is for a thoughtful more intelegent guy, the saluks have done it hear ,the collie typs some strains are good the deerhound lurcher are trying to claw back from the eighties when there was good lurcher to lurcher deerhound crosses , some bull crosses have done fine but alot havent the [bANNED TEXT] type to heavy etc to be good running dogsbut there will be some that can run , mate

[Ideation 8,217]

you saw many coyote hounds or proper staghounds gafer i have been lucky to se them mate hunt work i would have some of them in aminute saw one kill ajack rabit aftr 3 minute chase then next morning kiled abig coyote , great dog pity he died but he was a good one bred from old ben hardaways kennels , there good dogs when you see them stretched out on an ole coyote on aprairie great site

 

How does the staghound compare to a bullX (half cross) on coyotes?

 

Well a staghound will catch one for starters, while the half x bull is fading into the distance.

 

The coyote is the master of the running fight, a member on here who has killed his fair share, told me that plenty of dogs could kill one, but few could catch one AND kill one.

 

Stag hounds are basiclly bred down from the running dogs that our ancestors took to the new world, mainly greyhounds and deerhounds, back when greyhounds and deerhounds were the buisness and lurchers weren't really used.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

There is no way to compare a bullcross to a "staghound". No coyote dog over here could ever do what the good bullcross dogs have done in England..........not even close as a matter of fact. That being said there will never be a bullcross bred over there nor over here that could be held to the standards that I or my good friends hold their coyote dogs. They would fail in literally every single department including the kill alot of the times. f****n around with a fox or a dog gone animal that is tough but cannot run is not in the same class as catchin and killin a coyote. The problem is that over here and over there % of the dogs born every year should be shot cuz they are culls and I'm being nice right now. Dont matter if its a bullcross nor a "staghound".

[Romany 1,065]

Do these staghound work single handed on Coyotes or they doubled up?

 

 

Very nice pics btw

 

A lot are hunted in packs of 3 or more, share the work load, a coyote is a bloody tough cookie for any dog single handed

[bird 10,014]

i suppose we could try to breed somthing very similar here, that could have real good stamina, good feet+coat, and tenacity+ strong jaw. Maybe a good bullxgrey x deerhoundxgrey to good coursing dog as a start. Wouldnt need as big dog as USA , but pre ban do any quarry we have here , not a yote dog but simlar type for the UK , just a thought lol .!

[bendrover 556]

An Australian Staghound with a few we caught that morning;

 

 

Cheers.

an impressive chest there chart............on the dog that is

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Its pretty simple really. The best of your coursing bulls bred to the best of your rough coated lamping dogs would give yall the real deal if bred and culled judiciously by honest men who were extremely difficult to please.

[harvey d 43]

There is no way to compare a bullcross to a "staghound". No coyote dog over here could ever do what the good bullcross dogs have done in England..........not even close as a matter of fact. That being said there will never be a bullcross bred over there nor over here that could be held to the standards that I or my good friends hold their coyote dogs. They would fail in literally every single department including the kill alot of the times. f****n around with a fox or a dog gone animal that is tough but cannot run is not in the same class as catchin and killin a coyote. The problem is that over here and over there % of the dogs born every year should be shot cuz they are culls and I'm being nice right now. Dont matter if its a bullcross nor a "staghound".

Dan you talk a lot of sense,to much rubbish kept by to many people