scothunter 12,609 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 deny it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Im talking about the so called torture of suspects. other countrys hide it and justify it.to many leftys in this country and the goverment.if torturing some terrorist saves one innocent person from the uk,then it is justified in my book. Maybe I've got hold of the wrong end of the stick here...but if it's in relation to this INNOCENT guy who was tortured to death by uk troops. How many lves were saved by killing him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Im talking about the so called torture of suspects. other countrys hide it and justify it.to many leftys in this country and the goverment.if torturing some terrorist saves one innocent person from the uk,then it is justified in my book. Maybe I've got hold of the wrong end of the stick here...but if it's in relation to this INNOCENT guy who was tortured to death by uk troops. How many lves were saved by killing him? im not saying mistakes cant and wont be made mate.but sooner people realise that the security forces ie mi6 and mi5 are pretty dodgy and not all there decisions arent perfect,but lets be honest here.they dont just grab innocent people of the streets and torture them.there must have been allegations made against this guy in question.allegedly he was innocent,and i dont think the end result was to kill him.however there have been attacks foiled by our security forces,they have been in the news when they were busted.also a lot of things that go on in the back ground that we never hear about.they have our countrys best interests at heart.if it stops another 9/11 or 7/11 i think the end justifies the means.in te current climate,i honestly believe a major attack on this country would take years to recover from.i might not agree with george bush on things,but he was spot on when he said its a war on terror,and not likely to stop anytime soon.thats my take on it anyway,not saying im right or wrong and im aware there some lads will not agree with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Im talking about the so called torture of suspects. other countrys hide it and justify it.to many leftys in this country and the goverment.if torturing some terrorist saves one innocent person from the uk,then it is justified in my book. Maybe I've got hold of the wrong end of the stick here...but if it's in relation to this INNOCENT guy who was tortured to death by uk troops. How many lives were saved by killing him? Who knows the answer to that? Maybe a lot, maybe none. Worth a try I'd have said. The only bad bit is that the Soldiers got caught, should have been more careful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I realy dont understand people who believe we are in danger of being 'blown up' or attacked, back in the 70s when there was a real threat from terrorists closer to home, we didnt have all this hype and invasion into civil liberty "just in case" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I realy dont understand people who believe we are in danger of being 'blown up' or attacked, back in the 70s when there was a real threat from terrorists closer to home, we didnt have all this hype and invasion into civil liberty "just in case" diffrent war altogether.the ira in there hey day wouldnt have done what those c**ts did.even though i despise them and what they did,im sure even a commited irishman would have said thats to far!i mean if an attack like 9/11 happened here.also the ira would have had no chance of getting thier hands on a dirty bomb,and even if they did i dont think they would use it.when that kind of attack is threatning,i would give them carte blanche on stopping it.blowing up planes and trying thier hardest to get thier hands on plutonium and other nasty stuff,that could affect this country and the WORLD for decades if they pulled it of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiebop 125 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 deny it Like the Holocust, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 deny it Like the Holocust, i question it yes and i dont use the term holocaust.oh and i aint going into it with you,before i get a barrage of questions.and what that has to do with this i have no idea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andy s410c 63 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Blan that Hitler clip has destroyed me :laugh: got tears of laughter :laugh: Nearly as good as the bunker clip when he finds out Newcastle's been relegated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 back in the 70 s when the troubles were on in ireland any we snatched were interogated to the max and a few never came out of it but there was never any who ah about it , it happened the lucky ones got passed on to the likes of mi5 etc , its war for fcks sake those rag heads don t worry about torturing and killing our troops , old saying dead ones don t shoot back !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) Yep the high echelons of our country is inhabited by socialist traitors, hungrily devouring on us from the inside. I think their ultimate desire is to destroy any form of nationhood and absorb us into the EU. Edited September 8, 2011 by shepp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Blan that Hitler clip has destroyed me :laugh: got tears of laughter :laugh: Nearly as good as the bunker clip when he finds out Newcastle's been relegated It's a beast isn't it mate,i prefer this one though. you've got to watch it to the end to understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiebop 125 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Scothunter ; What has this to do with topic? DENY IT you posted. It has to do with torturing,Whether it 6 million or 1.Denying it doesn't mean it didn't Happen and doesn't make it Right !lying about it will not indicate it isn't WRONG...They used to dip women into Water to see if they were Witches, if they didn't Drown they burnt them at the stake No win situation,and usually down to gossip or Jealousy and greed .Things don't seem to have moved on. The FEAR of pain will bring better results ,than the actual infliction,most Torturers are at the core Sadists ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I realy dont understand people who believe we are in danger of being 'blown up' or attacked, back in the 70s when there was a real threat from terrorists closer to home, we didnt have all this hype and invasion into civil liberty "just in case" You reckon? The only differences were back then every one didn't have a mobile phone with a digital camera built in and things weren't subject to 24/7 media attention like they are now. Everything newsworthy these days is subjected to the same trail by media.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Firstly, torture is not a very effective method of information extraction, you'd be better of using certain drugs. Secondly, given our governments track record, i wouldnt trust them to make me a sandwich, let a lone decide on things like if it was appropriate to torture people. Thirdly, and no offense intended, a lot of the soldiers i have met where pig ignorant, wannabe hard men, who just wanted to 'f**k shit up' and play with guns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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