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dave was a very good terrier man had some cracking russells and a very good rep for fmwtc also not many folk would have the bottle to say owt disrespectfull to his face years ago ,i had a couple of dogs him, he moved from batley area to barnsley think he packed in bout then had some good times at shows then in 70s, saw him at great yorks not in good health, he was a good diggin pal to scottie and allan johnston ,dave weston atb to him

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Im sorry to hear the mans in a wheelchair,   Dave bred some very good dogs,a couple of mates had terriers from his stuff,my digging partner had a red dog,bit big for some fox earths but very useful

Just out of curiosity hunt,have you dug to terriers pre locator.The difference now in my mind is you can enter a terrier in very deep places where you will get a result,where as before the locator lad

dave was a very good terrier man had some cracking russells and a very good rep for fmwtc also not many folk would have the bottle to say owt disrespectfull to his face years ago ,i had a couple of dogs him, he moved from batley area to barnsley think he packed in bout then had some good times at shows then in 70s, saw him at great yorks not in good health, he was a good diggin pal to scottie and allan johnston ,dave weston atb to him

SORRY TO SAY D SCOTT (SCOTTIE) PASSED AWAY A FEW WEEKS AGO, MY CONDOLENCES GO TO HIS FAMILY.

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Any decent man involved with dogs would be able to find a dog the same way as the olden days and If they couldn't thy shouldn't be in the game I heard you gone to earth would struggle to find one with a collar on lol

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Remember though a lot of these old men used multiple terriers back in the day ok they dug stuff when it was legal but to be honest were there dogs any better and should they be held in such high regard as great terriermen of old when dogs were dogs I think the dogs of today are a better standard to quote dr old rip and black jack were top class but the black dog is a better tool now we have these new collars I have respect for Anyone of senior age to myself as a person but I think to a lot it is Rose tinted glassed regarding terrierwork of old a lot of it is exactly where it belongs in the past

 

Could you explain why the dogs of today are of a better standard and why the black dog is a better tool now we have these new collars?Is this hearsay or are you speaking from experience?

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Any decent man involved with dogs would be able to find a dog the same way as the olden days and If they couldn't thy shouldn't be in the game I heard you gone to earth would struggle to find one with a collar on lol

Just out of curiosity hunt,have you dug to terriers pre locator.The difference now in my mind is you can enter a terrier in very deep places where you will get a result,where as before the locator lads were carefull to an extent where they entered a dog for obvious reasons.Before the locator terriers had to stay for very long periods of time before even been located let alone dug,so hard dogs were few and far between,and a sounder was the real deal then.Now you can vary the dogs used as they can be dug to in almost every situation.What would men like bert gripton frank buck and there era think of the magic box.

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Any decent man involved with dogs would be able to find a dog the same way as the olden days and If they couldn't thy shouldn't be in the game I heard you gone to earth would struggle to find one with a collar on lol

 

I agree, and I think theres a hell of a lot of folk that cant.

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Any decent man involved with dogs would be able to find a dog the same way as the olden days and If they couldn't thy shouldn't be in the game I heard you gone to earth would struggle to find one with a collar on lol

me never dug anything in my life or owned worked a terrier whats a collar

only show and dye terriers and collect rosetts and drink tea, but then

every one who really knows me knows that ;) differance is my history is

known some people invent theirs :hmm:

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dave was a very good terrier man had some cracking russells and a very good rep for fmwtc also not many folk would have the bottle to say owt disrespectfull to his face years ago ,i had a couple of dogs him, he moved from batley area to barnsley think he packed in bout then had some good times at shows then in 70s, saw him at great yorks not in good health, he was a good diggin pal to scottie and allan johnston ,dave weston atb to him

SORRY TO SAY D SCOTT (SCOTTIE) PASSED AWAY A FEW WEEKS AGO, MY CONDOLENCES GO TO HIS FAMILY.

thanks alli

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BERT GRIPTON DID USE THE LOCATOR WHEN THEY CAME OUT AND HE EXPLAINED TO US HOW GOOD THEY WHERE. NO ONE CAN ARGUE WITH THAT, THE LOCATORS ARE A GREAT INVENTION;THEY SAVE TIME, THEY SAVE ALOT OF DIGGING AND TRENCHING SOMETIMES 'BUT ABOVE ALL ELSE THEY HAVE SAVE MANY GOOD TERRIERS. ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO NOW ONE OF MY RUSSELL BITCHES ENTERED A MASSIVE PLACE AND SHE WASN'T WEARING A LOCATOR COLLAR AS SHE WAS JUST OUT EXERCISING, (WHICH IS ALWAYS THE CASE) AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY TOOLS. A LOCATOR WOULD HAVE BEEN OF NO USE WHATSOEVER IN THIS PARTICULAR PLACE.I HAD BOLTED MANY FOXES FROM THIS PLACE AND IT WAS VIRTUALLY UNDIGGABLE BY HAND. I MANAGED TO GET THE DOG OUT AFTER 11 DAYS, SOMEWHAT ON THE LEANER SIDE BUT FITNESS HAD SEEN HER THROUGH...THIS TURNED OUT TO BE AN ALL OUT RESCUE AND HOW GOOD IT WAS TO GET HER OUT AFTER II DAYS.

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BERT GRIPTON DID USE THE LOCATOR WHEN THEY CAME OUT AND HE EXPLAINED TO US HOW GOOD THEY WHERE. NO ONE CAN ARGUE WITH THAT, THE LOCATORS ARE A GREAT INVENTION;THEY SAVE TIME, THEY SAVE ALOT OF DIGGING AND TRENCHING SOMETIMES 'BUT ABOVE ALL ELSE THEY HAVE SAVE MANY GOOD TERRIERS. ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO NOW ONE OF MY RUSSELL BITCHES ENTERED A MASSIVE PLACE AND SHE WASN'T WEARING A LOCATOR COLLAR AS SHE WAS JUST OUT EXERCISING, (WHICH IS ALWAYS THE CASE) AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY TOOLS. A LOCATOR WOULD HAVE BEEN OF NO USE WHATSOEVER IN THIS PARTICULAR PLACE.I HAD BOLTED MANY FOXES FROM THIS PLACE AND IT WAS VIRTUALLY UNDIGGABLE BY HAND. I MANAGED TO GET THE DOG OUT AFTER 11 DAYS, SOMEWHAT ON THE LEANER SIDE BUT FITNESS HAD SEEN HER THROUGH...THIS TURNED OUT TO BE AN ALL OUT RESCUE AND HOW GOOD IT WAS TO GET HER OUT AFTER II DAYS.

 

 

Wouldn't have thought it possible for a dog to survive 11 days without water?

Just curious.

 

FTB

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BERT GRIPTON DID USE THE LOCATOR WHEN THEY CAME OUT AND HE EXPLAINED TO US HOW GOOD THEY WHERE. NO ONE CAN ARGUE WITH THAT, THE LOCATORS ARE A GREAT INVENTION;THEY SAVE TIME, THEY SAVE ALOT OF DIGGING AND TRENCHING SOMETIMES 'BUT ABOVE ALL ELSE THEY HAVE SAVE MANY GOOD TERRIERS. ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO NOW ONE OF MY RUSSELL BITCHES ENTERED A MASSIVE PLACE AND SHE WASN'T WEARING A LOCATOR COLLAR AS SHE WAS JUST OUT EXERCISING, (WHICH IS ALWAYS THE CASE) AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY TOOLS. A LOCATOR WOULD HAVE BEEN OF NO USE WHATSOEVER IN THIS PARTICULAR PLACE.I HAD BOLTED MANY FOXES FROM THIS PLACE AND IT WAS VIRTUALLY UNDIGGABLE BY HAND. I MANAGED TO GET THE DOG OUT AFTER 11 DAYS, SOMEWHAT ON THE LEANER SIDE BUT FITNESS HAD SEEN HER THROUGH...THIS TURNED OUT TO BE AN ALL OUT RESCUE AND HOW GOOD IT WAS TO GET HER OUT AFTER II DAYS.

 

 

Wouldn't have thought it possible for a dog to survive 11 days without water?

Just curious.

 

FTB

YOU WOULD BE SUPRIZED HOW LONG A TERRIER CAN SURVIVE, ITS USUALLY THE OWNER THAT GIVES UP FIRST, WE GOT A TERRIER OUT OF ROCK AFTER 7 DAYS, A BIT BALD IN PLACES BUT RIGHT AS RAIN AFTER A FEW HOURS, IME SURE THERES BIN TERRIERS TRAPPED FOR LONGER AND LIVED TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY. SO WHILE ON ABOUT RESCUES HOW MANY YOU TERRIER LADS HAVE HELPED IN A RESCUE AND HOW THE OUTCOME WAS.
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