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theres actualy a few london clubs,,, wasps, halaquins, london irish, london welsh even saracens are ony from watford,, and there all in the premireship apart from london welsh.... so theres some good clubs from london,,, its pianfull to admit :icon_redface: in fact 4 out of the 12 premirship teams from there.

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Hang on a minute, Murray is scottish.   I've no problem with supporting our british sports men/women but when they come out openly stating that they don't follow the same sort of support I personall

By that measure he would never be

theres actualy a few london clubs,,, wasps, halaquins, london irish, london welsh even saracens are ony from watford,, and there all in the premireship apart from london welsh.... so theres some good clubs from london,,, its pianfull to admit :icon_redface: in fact 4 out of the 12 premirship teams from there.

 

Correct, although like Carlsberg, probably the best team plays very near me. :thumbs:

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And good as Murray is didn't he have to go abroad to realise that potential?

 

Your local leisure centre will want around 12 pound per hour for the hire of a tennis court.

It costs virtually nothing to play football.....it costs virtually nothing to box........pretty self explannatory really if your 2 young 12 year old boys out for an aftenoon of sport......but potentially they could well have a talent for playing tennis.

 

All sport should be easily accessible to all kids in any area in my opinion.

 

:thumbs: spot on.... i seem to remember reading somwere that our kids in secondry school do about 2 hours of sport a week excluding after school clubs,,, i think im right in saying they do double that in oz......

 

 

I hated school, but i would have played sport all day given the chance.

 

Something missed off of the Teachers thread, was how much time they used to give up for after school matches against other schools. Not sure if things like that still go on ??

 

 

Competition in schools has gone IMO. You've only to look at exam results to see that, everyone passes nowadays. If they put more emphasis on playing more sport in schools, maybe we would produce "World beaters" :toast::toast:

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And good as Murray is didn't he have to go abroad to realise that potential?

 

Your local leisure centre will want around 12 pound per hour for the hire of a tennis court.

It costs virtually nothing to play football.....it costs virtually nothing to box........pretty self explannatory really if your 2 young 12 year old boys out for an aftenoon of sport......but potentially they could well have a talent for playing tennis.

 

All sport should be easily accessible to all kids in any area in my opinion.

 

:thumbs: spot on.... i seem to remember reading somwere that our kids in secondry school do about 2 hours of sport a week excluding after school clubs,,, i think im right in saying they do double that in oz......

I hated school, but i would have played sport all day given the chance.

 

Something missed off of the Teachers thread, was how much time they used to give up for after school matches against other schools. Not sure if things like that still go on ??

 

Competition in schools has gone IMO. You've only to look at exam results to see that, everyone passes nowadays. If they put more emphasis on playing more sport in schools, maybe we would produce "World beaters" :toast::toast:

 

Good point :thumbs:

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theres actualy a few london clubs,,, wasps, halaquins, london irish, london welsh even saracens are ony from watford,, and there all in the premireship apart from london welsh.... so theres some good clubs from london,,, its pianfull to admit :icon_redface: in fact 4 out of the 12 premirship teams from there.

 

Correct, although like Carlsberg, probably the best team plays very near me. :thumbs:

 

YEP the tigers,, welford road, not that far from me either, never been out the top 6 in the premiership

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Rounders...erm mean baseball...until a few yr ago tennis they have some good boxers

 

 

Infact id go as far as to say Mexico probably have double the amount of world champions America have at this moment,and good old Britain are probably only a few behind them

 

 

Mexico currently have 20 world champions.

USA 14

GB 4? Nathan Cleverly, Carl Froch, Amir Khan, and Ricky Burns.

Thats counting only WBC, IBF, WBA and WBO.

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Done some maths about the last Olympics.

 

China earned 1 medal per 13,391,900 people

 

USA earned 1 medal per 2,817,954

 

Russia earned 1 medal per 1,971,212

 

and the UK beat them all with medals per population with 1 medal for every 1,320,036 people so we actually do really well if you look at the bigger picture.

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Mexico currently have 20 world champions.

USA 14

GB 4? Nathan Cleverly, Carl Froch, Amir Khan, and Ricky Burns.

Thats counting only WBC, IBF, WBA and WBO.

Mine was just a guess :D

But having looked....im not sure where you get 14 for the Yanks from i counted 10.......also 6 for the Japanese :icon_eek:

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Done some maths about the last Olympics.

 

China earned 1 medal per 13,391,900 people

 

USA earned 1 medal per 2,817,954

 

Russia earned 1 medal per 1,971,212

 

and the UK beat them all with medals per population with 1 medal for every 1,320,036 people so we actually do really well if you look at the bigger picture.

 

My word....if they are facts,thats a fantastic contribution to this whole debate.......well done sir :thumbs:

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Done some maths about the last Olympics.

 

China earned 1 medal per 13,391,900 people

 

USA earned 1 medal per 2,817,954

 

Russia earned 1 medal per 1,971,212

 

and the UK beat them all with medals per population with 1 medal for every 1,320,036 people so we actually do really well if you look at the bigger picture.

 

My word....if they are facts,thats a fantastic contribution to this whole debate.......well done sir :thumbs:

 

As close to fact as I could get it.

 

Population figures from here :- http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/populations/ctypopls.htm

 

Olympic medal tables from here :- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/medals_table/default.stm

 

Just did population / total medals.

 

EDIT: http://www.javarants.com/2008/08/24/2008-olympic-medal-counts-by-population/ Did it with more accurate population figures than I used. According to their table we were 28th in medals per population. We still beat the 3 above though. Every country above us has a far smaller population.

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Mexico currently have 20 world champions.

USA 14

GB 4? Nathan Cleverly, Carl Froch, Amir Khan, and Ricky Burns.

Thats counting only WBC, IBF, WBA and WBO.

Mine was just a guess :D

But having looked....im not sure where you get 14 for the Yanks from i counted 10.......also 6 for the Japanese :icon_eek:

 

 

:laugh: Weren't sure if to count the so-called "super champions" and "regular" champions that they have now.

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As close to fact as I could get it.

 

Population figures from here :- http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/populations/ctypopls.htm

 

Olympic medal tables from here :- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/medals_table/default.stm

 

Just did population / total medals.

 

EDIT: http://www.javarants.com/2008/08/24/2008-olympic-medal-counts-by-population/ Did it with more accurate population figures than I used. According to their table we were 28th in medals per population. We still beat the 3 above though. Every country above us has a far smaller population.

 

Very interesting,good man :thumbs:

Must say though i think its only of real significance to countries who have won a fair few medals( how they have done the top 10 )... by rights some remote island with 100 people could top the table if 1 man happened to be a gold medal winner.

 

This has reminded me of a similar debate ive been having with a yank friend of mine for years now about who has had the most boxing world champions since the war per population Britain or America.....im convinced its us but dont have either the know how or statistics to prove it :D

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As close to fact as I could get it.

 

Population figures from here :- http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/populations/ctypopls.htm

 

Olympic medal tables from here :- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/medals_table/default.stm

 

Just did population / total medals.

 

EDIT: http://www.javarants.com/2008/08/24/2008-olympic-medal-counts-by-population/ Did it with more accurate population figures than I used. According to their table we were 28th in medals per population. We still beat the 3 above though. Every country above us has a far smaller population.

 

Very interesting,good man :thumbs:

Must say though i think its only of real significance to countries who have won a fair few medals( how they have done the top 10 )... by rights some remote island with 100 people could top the table if 1 man happened to be a gold medal winner.

 

This has reminded me of a similar debate ive been having with a yank friend of mine for years now about who has had the most boxing world champions since the war per population Britain or America.....im convinced its us but dont have either the know how or statistics to prove it :D

 

Tried to find the stats. Found there were 30 British heavyweights since the end of the war so as the US as roughly double our population they would need 60+. Problem is length of time holding on to belts would affect it.

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Tried to find the stats. Found there were 30 British heavyweights since the end of the war so as the US as roughly double our population they would need 60+. Problem is length of time holding on to belts would affect it.

 

 

30 British Heavyweight World Champions since the war :blink: ...we wished :D...or is that 30 at any weight,sounds more feasible.

 

And dont the yanks have around 300 million population compared to our 65ish ?...meaning on the whole they would need around 6 times as many champions as us........dont matter how long they held a title just as long as they won it.

 

Its a real hard one to work out,the tough part comes with ethnicity...a fighter like Lennox Lewis...did he win a World title as a Brit or a Canadian.....Calzaghe,Welsh or Italian etc etc

 

Id love to have some solid facts i just dont have the patience to find out for definate :D

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And dont the yanks have around 300 million population compared to our 65ish ?...meaning on the whole they would need around 6 times as many champions as us........dont matter how long they held a title just as long as they won it.

 

 

:yes:

 

Yanks - 308,745,538 at their last census

 

GB - 62,262,000 last estimate.

 

Source: Wikipedia

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