starting pup

[daz1976 8]

when starting a pup do you think its best to start daytime or on the lamp,my pup is nearly 7 month so i know ive still loads of time iv not let him see anything yet,he will be manily used for daytime mooching but will do a little lamping just wondering if you would start him in the day or the lamp

[leepieman123 8]

hi mate i would of thought lampin first because if you do it the other way around he might just hunt on sent like in the day,

[DogMagic 461]

Whenever i get a pup i take it out with the others from the day i get it, all tucked up inside my coat with just its head poking out watching whats going on. Once its had its jabs its on the floor and following. We might just be bushing, we might be ferreting but the pup will be watching from my jacket from 6 weeks of age. I wont take them lamping untill they are 6 months plus and even then its only to watch and learn. I think that ferreting is the best way of teaching a dog whats what, they can get an interest in the rabbits and "catch" a few in the nets then recieve lots of praise and just progresse from there.

[Mick C. 229]

Whenever i get a pup i take it out with the others from the day i get it, all tucked up inside my coat with just its head poking out watching whats going on. Once its had its jabs its on the floor and following. We might just be bushing, we might be ferreting but the pup will be watching from my jacket from 6 weeks of age. I wont take them lamping untill they are 6 months plus and even then its only to watch and learn. I think that ferreting is the best way of teaching a dog whats what, they can get an interest in the rabbits and "catch" a few in the nets then recieve lots of praise and just progresse from there.

ferreting is how i started mine

 

But i also had them chasing tennis balls and retreiving soft toys on the lamp.

 

Used to train them on the local playing fields

 

If the recall is spot on you should be ok.

 

Of course there will be others that differ.Its up to you really

 

Be patient have a set routine and time will do the rest

[KittleRox 2,147]

hi mate i would of thought lampin first because if you do it the other way around he might just hunt on sent like in the day,

Nothing personal mate but that reply is typical on this forum and its alot of pish,if a pup is taken oot regular day and night it will soon learn when to put its head up or doon,dugs are intelligent beasts well at least most of them

[Ideation 8,217]

I like the idea that people get to choose, that they can let a dog see it's first bunny or whatever in the lamp on the perfect night. Fat chance i've got here, my current pup has made both his first catches on two different species by accident, and saw all of the varying quarry species out and about by the age of 6 months. Unless i kept him in the garden or always had him on a lead there is no way of avoiding the situation. We walk through the country and sooner or later something will get up in front and theres no holding a determined dog then, whatever age.

[BIG ZOOK 5]

DO not start too soon .It is easy to end up with a despondent dog and owner .Get the basics of sitting,lying down,staying still,responding to arm movement commands,fetching,jumping and stopping a chase with your chosen word.Have started a few pups at 12-14 months old (best age imo) by lamping and shooting the quarry with an air rifle and sending the pup out for the retrieve.I never run a pup with an older dog to "learn the ropes" as i have had a few promising pups "opening up" barking through frustration.In 20 yrs i have had less than 8 pups ,some did not make the grade,but a few dogs lasted me 5yrs before the were retired and kept by my family as pets.Enjoy your pup. :thumbs:IMO only and has worked 4 me .For the bloke who changes a pup at every failing just ignore.

Edited February 18, 2011 by BIG ZOOK

[dougall 98]

hi mate i would of thought lampin first because if you do it the other way around he might just hunt on sent like in the day,

Nothing personal mate but that reply is typical on this forum and its alot of pish,if a pup is taken oot regular day and night it will soon learn when to put its head up or doon,dugs are intelligent beasts well at least most of them

 

well said mate thats the way its worked for me atb

[watchman 256]

when starting a pup do you think its best to start daytime or on the lamp,my pup is nearly 7 month so i know ive still loads of time iv not let him see anything yet,he will be manily used for daytime mooching but will do a little lamping just wondering if you would start him in the day or the lamp

you ask whats best but i dont think there is a best its down to you the owner how you start them off,in my case i always start them off lamping when they are mentaly and physicaly ready,or if you like when i think they are ready,my life style/work commitments doesnt give me much freedom for daytime work,yes of course they get the odd day out mooching about with my older dogs but as for "starting them off"my deffinition is getting them on quarry then its lamping for me,think its really down to what you want from the dog and the type of work you intend it to do,above all always let a pup be a pup no need to rush anything,jmo of course

[Catcher 1 639]

As soon as they are vaccinated if they walk on the lead fine.If not i cary them over to the woods and sit with the air rifle.The bonding should start young. as possible. A few weeks of this they are responding to recall.Feck waiting six month to start training a dog.Not for me.

[daz1976 8]

thanks for the replys,the dogs obedience training recall,sit,retreive is all pretty good not 100% but good for a 6 month old dog he is still very much a pup and like i said i havnt shown him anything he seen a few birds and does chase but thats it and i dont realy want to show him anything else for another few month,my older bitch was started with a little ferreting but i dont have ferrets and dont know anyone who does as iv moved since then so starting the pup will be diffrent i just hope i get the chance for some easy rabbits for him

[BIG ZOOK 5]

so starting the pup will be diffrent i just hope i get the chance for some easy rabbits for him

No easy rabbits if the dog is not ready .Sorry to sound like a knob but do the homework with the pup and the reward will be 20 fold.Good luck.

Edited February 18, 2011 by BIG ZOOK

[watchman 256]

As soon as they are vaccinated if they walk on the lead fine.If not i cary them over to the woods and sit with the air rifle.The bonding should start young. as possible. A few weeks of this they are responding to recall.Feck waiting six month to start training a dog.Not for me.

bin that,i just meant you dont have to wait 6 month to start training it up if your going to start it off lamping first,thats all i meant

[Catcher 1 639]

As soon as they are vaccinated if they walk on the lead fine.If not i cary them over to the woods and sit with the air rifle.The bonding should start young. as possible. A few weeks of this they are responding to recall.Feck waiting six month to start training a dog.Not for me.

it sounds like your saying "feck waiting 6 month" to start training a dog if your going to start it lamping first,just the way it reads maybe ,yes the bonding is paramount from an early age but this is obviously not the case,as in waiting i mean,recall and retrieve firmly in place first for me, dont need to wait to teach the dog basics until its old enough to be out in the field working this is all done as part of the ongoing process leading up to the appropriate time its ready for introducing it to work,hope that makes sense lol

 

 

Yes watchman to be honest most of my lurchers are retrieveing shot magpies/crows/squirrels.Long before they see a rabbit never mind chase one.I find a young dog that can sit for a few hours with the gun teaches them paithens.Its work for me.Plenty time to put them on the lamp after they stop being pups and strat using there brain.

[watchman 256]

As soon as they are vaccinated if they walk on the lead fine.If not i cary them over to the woods and sit with the air rifle.The bonding should start young. as possible. A few weeks of this they are responding to recall.Feck waiting six month to start training a dog.Not for me.

it sounds like your saying "feck waiting 6 month" to start training a dog if your going to start it lamping first,just the way it reads maybe ,yes the bonding is paramount from an early age but this is obviously not the case,as in waiting i mean,recall and retrieve firmly in place first for me, dont need to wait to teach the dog basics until its old enough to be out in the field working this is all done as part of the ongoing process leading up to the appropriate time its ready for introducing it to work,hope that makes sense lol

 

 

Yes watchman to be honest most of my lurchers are retrieveing shot magpies/crows/squirrels.Long before they see a rabbit never mind chase one.I find a young dog that can sit for a few hours with the gun teaches them paithens.Its work for me.Plenty time to put them on the lamp after they stop being pups and strat using there brain.

dont disagree at all mate,although mine tend to struggle with pigeons at times as youngsters although keeness usualy overcomes the discomfort of a mouth full of feathers