Cleanspade 3,324 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 how many of you would go outside your chosen type of terrier when breeding a litter. years ago most terriers where crossbreds. but now most folk seem to stick to a certain breed or type. it used to be best to best now it seems its best patt to best patt. best russell to best russell and so on. is this pureist attitude good or bad for the working terrier in general or not so good. i'd be interested in your thoughts on this. if you have any cleanspade Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 I haven't done much earthwork, but the old boy I done a few seasons with didn't know what was in his dogs, apart from the few that obviously had Russell in them. They were all scruffy looking cross breeds They all worked though. Quote Link to post
CarraghsGem 92 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 not really, wouldnt have any qualms about mixing certain breeds. people have become vey snobbish in recent times. Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 how many of you would go outside your chosen type of terrier when breeding a litter. years ago most terriers where crossbreds. but now most folk seem to stick to a certain breed or type. it used to be best to best now it seems its best patt to best patt. best russell to best russell and so on. is this pureist attitude good or bad for the working terrier in general or not so good. i'd be interested in your thoughts on this. if you have any cleanspade Just for the record mate ,a type is not a breed ie Russel ,Lakeland. Dont know how old you are mate but where im from the breeds have always been just that ,seperate breeds.Within each breed there are types which is enough to be dealing with let alone going across to the unknown .A Russel man is just that and so on .A lot of people in this game will spend a lifetime messing about with crosses of various sorts whereas they could have achieved success with sticking to a breed and getting to know it inside out .Breeding best to best within a type will produce a stamp of terrier recognisable by those that breed similar . 3 Quote Link to post
tinytiger 872 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 how many of you would go outside your chosen type of terrier when breeding a litter. years ago most terriers where crossbreds. but now most folk seem to stick to a certain breed or type. it used to be best to best now it seems its best patt to best patt. best russell to best russell and so on. is this pureist attitude good or bad for the working terrier in general or not so good. i'd be interested in your thoughts on this. if you have any cleanspade and everyone complains about how many useless terriers are about,i.m.o its a result of them being overly inbred- the best and worst of their genepool comes to the surface-sometimes even in the same litter.There is a lot to be said in favour of inbreeding as well though as long as one tests his /her breeding stock well and breeds only from good workers. Quote Link to post
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 I'm not against it, put the best dog to the best bitch at your disposal. But in saying that I've got a young Russell bitch here and if she works well enough to breed off then I would search about to find a PROPER working Russell with plenty of digs under his belt/collar to put over her IF she proves her worth over the next few years. Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,324 Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 how many of you would go outside your chosen type of terrier when breeding a litter. years ago most terriers where crossbreds. but now most folk seem to stick to a certain breed or type. it used to be best to best now it seems its best patt to best patt. best russell to best russell and so on. is this pureist attitude good or bad for the working terrier in general or not so good. i'd be interested in your thoughts on this. if you have any cleanspade Just for the record mate ,a type is not a breed ie Russel ,Lakeland. Dont know how old you are mate but where im from the breeds have always been just that ,seperate breeds.Within each breed there are types which is enough to be dealing with let alone going across to the unknown .A Russel man is just that and so on .A lot of people in this game will spend a lifetime messing about with crosses of various sorts whereas they could have achieved success with sticking to a breed and getting to know it inside out .Breeding best to best within a type will produce a stamp of terrier recognisable by those that breed similar . its a pretty simple post foxwhopper. no need to be flippant do you think breeding for breed type ie laky rather than going straight for the best available worker regardless of breed or type is good or bad for the working terrier in general. i'm sure most folk know what i mean. and where i come from acting smart to try and look clever usually gets you a kick in the balls Quote Link to post
events co-ordinator 353 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Thats why I would rather stick to known lines right now I need a stud to put over my brafaw. 1 Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,324 Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Thats why I would rather stick to known lines right now I need a stud to put over my brafaw. i have a piecost if thats any good Quote Link to post
Guest alcapone Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 how many of you would go outside your chosen type of terrier when breeding a litter. years ago most terriers where crossbreds. but now most folk seem to stick to a certain breed or type. it used to be best to best now it seems its best patt to best patt. best russell to best russell and so on. is this pureist attitude good or bad for the working terrier in general or not so good. i'd be interested in your thoughts on this. if you have any cleanspade Just for the record mate ,a type is not a breed ie Russel ,Lakeland. Dont know how old you are mate but where im from the breeds have always been just that ,seperate breeds.Within each breed there are types which is enough to be dealing with let alone going across to the unknown .A Russel man is just that and so on .A lot of people in this game will spend a lifetime messing about with crosses of various sorts whereas they could have achieved success with sticking to a breed and getting to know it inside out .Breeding best to best within a type will produce a stamp of terrier recognisable by those that breed similar . Well said fox dropper!!!! Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,324 Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 how many of you would go outside your chosen type of terrier when breeding a litter. years ago most terriers where crossbreds. but now most folk seem to stick to a certain breed or type. it used to be best to best now it seems its best patt to best patt. best russell to best russell and so on. is this pureist attitude good or bad for the working terrier in general or not so good. i'd be interested in your thoughts on this. if you have any cleanspade Just for the record mate ,a type is not a breed ie Russel ,Lakeland. Dont know how old you are mate but where im from the breeds have always been just that ,seperate breeds.Within each breed there are types which is enough to be dealing with let alone going across to the unknown .A Russel man is just that and so on .A lot of people in this game will spend a lifetime messing about with crosses of various sorts whereas they could have achieved success with sticking to a breed and getting to know it inside out .Breeding best to best within a type will produce a stamp of terrier recognisable by those that breed similar . Well said fox dropper!!!! why best to best within a type. surely that narrows down the choice of quality workers. why not just best to best available. my point is if you want the very best. you would need to breed to the very best. and the very best may be a different type. and if you stick to type you could be breeding off second best. Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Its no wonder your spades clean mate ! Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,324 Posted September 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Its no wonder your spades clean mate ! its not its gone rusty Quote Link to post
events co-ordinator 353 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 CRUSTY ? Quote Link to post
jimmy 76 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 lets say if you had a bitch out realy good lines and she fails.Would you use a realy good working dog over and see what you get ? Quote Link to post
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