Guest traceyg Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Have your say guys but no arguing or trouble causing or the post will be gone . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 never fails to amaze me,that the same lads calling us bigots and secterian,are the 1st to post when there a thread about losing our identity to muslims and other illegals.we cant do this and cant do that cause it will offend the minoritys.we cant fly the union flag as it also offends people.yet an organisation loyal to queen and country are branded bigots and should be banned for exercising their rights in their own country.a predomanatly protestant country i might add.take away the hard core element that you will find in every organisation.ive had some great days at the parades over the years.good day out for the family plenty to do for the kids and its not all about secterisism.just some choose to brand it that.they fly the union flag with pride and commerate battles from a time our beliefs and way of life was threatened.but hey lets ban all the things that we did in the past and forget about our history in case it offends people.lets get rid of statues of churchill and cromwell cause after all they were just war mongers. for the record i DO NOT HATE CATHOLICS but im proud of my past and it should be commerated in any way as long as its controlled and marshalled. You have a very idealistic take on the orange order. No matter how you try to dress it up it is what it is an arciac outdated sectarian organisation that has no place in decent society. Love how you contradict yourself with your 1 st post. This whole gumph about being proud of your past is what exactly. This country may be predominately Protestant but it's not prodominately orange. Like I said if you feel the urge to march hire a stadium and keep yor bile to yourselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 never fails to amaze me,that the same lads calling us bigots and secterian,are the 1st to post when there a thread about losing our identity to muslims and other illegals.we cant do this and cant do that cause it will offend the minoritys.we cant fly the union flag as it also offends people.yet an organisation loyal to queen and country are branded bigots and should be banned for exercising their rights in their own country.a predomanatly protestant country i might add.take away the hard core element that you will find in every organisation.ive had some great days at the parades over the years.good day out for the family plenty to do for the kids and its not all about secterisism.just some choose to brand it that.they fly the union flag with pride and commerate battles from a time our beliefs and way of life was threatened.but hey lets ban all the things that we did in the past and forget about our history in case it offends people.lets get rid of statues of churchill and cromwell cause after all they were just war mongers. for the record i DO NOT HATE CATHOLICS but im proud of my past and it should be commerated in any way as long as its controlled and marshalled. You have a very idealistic take on the orange order. No matter how you try to dress it up it is what it is an arciac outdated sectarian organisation that has no place in decent society. Love how you contradict yourself with your 1 st post. This whole gumph about being proud of your past is what exactly. This country may be predominately Protestant but it's not prodominately orange. Like I said if you feel the urge to march hire a stadium and keep yor bile to yourselves. bile in your opinion,not from what i seen.and as i said you will always get extremist in all walks of life,im not hear to cause trouble or put anyone down and if you read my post not once did i do that.quite happily march in a stadium if the powers that be decide it,but the vast majority dont see a problem with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chimp 299 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 wheres strongstuff when you need him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 never fails to amaze me,that the same lads calling us bigots and secterian,are the 1st to post when there a thread about losing our identity to muslims and other illegals.we cant do this and cant do that cause it will offend the minoritys.we cant fly the union flag as it also offends people.yet an organisation loyal to queen and country are branded bigots and should be banned for exercising their rights in their own country.a predomanatly protestant country i might add.take away the hard core element that you will find in every organisation.ive had some great days at the parades over the years.good day out for the family plenty to do for the kids and its not all about secterisism.just some choose to brand it that.they fly the union flag with pride and commerate battles from a time our beliefs and way of life was threatened.but hey lets ban all the things that we did in the past and forget about our history in case it offends people.lets get rid of statues of churchill and cromwell cause after all they were just war mongers. for the record i DO NOT HATE CATHOLICS but im proud of my past and it should be commerated in any way as long as its controlled and marshalled. You have a very idealistic take on the orange order. No matter how you try to dress it up it is what it is an arciac outdated sectarian organisation that has no place in decent society. Love how you contradict yourself with your 1 st post. This whole gumph about being proud of your past is what exactly. This country may be predominately Protestant but it's not prodominately orange. Like I said if you feel the urge to march hire a stadium and keep yor bile to yourselves. the orange lodge is a sectarian movement True and we all know it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 wheres strongstuff when you need him He would make no diff', it would also be a 1 sided view Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 whos "we" the experts on thl? if its the latter the dont speak for the country on a whole.oh the true defination of the word bigot is someone who will not listen to another persons point of view,something a few on this thread have clearly shown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) As a former member of the Orange Order and still a congragational member of the Church of Scotland! who was born in Bridgeton and can truly call himself a "Brigton Boy" I've also been married to a Catholic lassie for over 30 years and have personally been the subject of bigotry and sectarionism from many different quarters! I'm dismayed and sorry to say that in my personal experience the orange order can and is seen as bigoted and sectarian by a large section of people including protestants like myself, Its not the only organisation that is tainted with this bile many pro-catholic organisations can be perceived as the same? I had the great privilege of being invited to Northern Ireland a few weeks ago! and had one of the best times of my life, I was welcomed by people of all faiths and religous convictions and will always have great memories of the province! Were' all entitled to our cultural, historical and political histories but!! when do we decide to stop goading each other, is it before or after the goading causes the violence? The people I met, all had one common bond and that was the love of the working dog and the mutual like of those caninine's trancended cultural, political and religous views! I'm saddened that there has been trouble and hope it ends as quickly as it started? and Northern Irelands people get back to enjoying the peace and each other! People who bang on about statues (Oliver Cromwell) and flags really need to study British history, and Scottish!! as well as Irelands past! Where is there a public statue of Oliver Cromwell in Scotland?, comemorating the individual or his deeds, The Scots, Irish and English all see him in a different perspective Can we now get back to what this forum is about!! "Working Dogs", respecting each other, and taking the piss when some-ones being a twat! without being to serious!! Here's to the peace and friendship!! Tom Edited July 13, 2010 by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) As a former member of the Orange Order and still a congragational member of the Church of Scotland! who was born in Bridgeton and can truly call himself a "Brigton Boy" I've also been married to a Catholic lassie for over 30 years and have personally been the subject of bigotry and sectarionism from many different quarters! I'm dismayed and sorry to say that in my personal experience the orange order can and is seen as bigoted and sectarian by a large section of people including protestants like myself, Its not the only organisation that is tainted with this bile many pro-catholic organisations can be perceived as the same? I had the great privilege of being invited to Northern Ireland a few weeks ago! and had one of the best times of my life, I was welcomed by people of all faiths and religous convictions and will always have great memories of the province! Were' all entitled to our cultural, historical and political histories but!! when do we decide to stop goading each other, is it before or after the goading causes the violence? The people I met, all had one common bond and that was the love of the working dog and the mutual like of those caninine's trancended cultural, political and religous views! I'm saddened that there has been trouble and hope it ends as quickly as it started? and Northern Irelands people get back to enjoying the peace and each other! People who bang on about statues (Oliver Cromwell) and flags really need to study British history, and Scottish!! as well as Irelands past! Where is there a public statue of Oliver Cromwell in Scotland?, comemorating the individual or his deeds, The Scots, Irish and English all see him in a different perspective Can we now get back to what this forum is about!! "Working Dogs", respecting each other, and taking the piss when some-ones being a twat! without being to serious!! Here's to the peace and friendship!! Tom i wssnt banging on about statues i was using it as a example from someone elses post.but to save the peace i will no longer comment on this thread.oh and this section of the site is for general talk and i never started the post just wasnt going to let the order be run down by people without stating a cpl of points.so ill bid you a good day.so anyone else commenting on here kindly refrain from directing at me thanks Edited July 13, 2010 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 This is the last type of thred i'd ever put a 'jot' down on but reading through, i must stop and post on a fantastic post by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 wheres strongstuff when you need him Probably marching himself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
springer 63 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 never fails to amaze me,that the same lads calling us bigots and secterian,are the 1st to post when there a thread about losing our identity to muslims and other illegals.we cant do this and cant do that cause it will offend the minoritys.we cant fly the union flag as it also offends people.yet an organisation loyal to queen and country are branded bigots and should be banned for exercising their rights in their own country.a predomanatly protestant country i might add.take away the hard core element that you will find in every organisation.ive had some great days at the parades over the years.good day out for the family plenty to do for the kids and its not all about secterisism.just some choose to brand it that.they fly the union flag with pride and commerate battles from a time our beliefs and way of life was threatened.but hey lets ban all the things that we did in the past and forget about our history in case it offends people.lets get rid of statues of churchill and cromwell cause after all they were just war mongers. for the record i DO NOT HATE CATHOLICS but im proud of my past and it should be commerated in any way as long as its controlled and marshalled. You have a very idealistic take on the orange order. No matter how you try to dress it up it is what it is an arciac outdated sectarian organisation that has no place in decent society. Love how you contradict yourself with your 1 st post. This whole gumph about being proud of your past is what exactly. This country may be predominately Protestant but it's not prodominately orange. Like I said if you feel the urge to march hire a stadium and keep yor bile to yourselves. and are the people who go out and oppose these marches and throw petrol bombs etc etc are they not sectraian bigots as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmys shop 182 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 What a topic ,on a hunting web site . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmys shop 182 Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 wheres strongstuff when you need him Probably marching himself Now give big Arron a break ,he,s over in taughy with my uncle Jackie enjoying himself . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
christian71 3,187 Posted July 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 wheres strongstuff when you need him Moving house will be back soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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