gurtwurz 793 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 well i went out with the dog n R10 over the weekend, just a couple of moochs whilst walking him really but we got one rabbit on each outing which would've been fine, we werent expecting owt considering it was about 4 pm each time,although the rabbits like a spot of afternoon sunbathing but theyre normally put off by the amount of dog walkers that get around the ground so you never can really tell whats gonna be about... anyhow, both rabbits suffering from major bouts of mixy, which trashed this permission at the end of last summer. i was hoping it might've died off a bit over the harsh winter but it looks like it'll be back with a vengeance again, mores the pity. personally, i shoot the poor buggers if theyre suffering and dispose of the bodies in a bin bag well away from the ground to try and stop the dead uns infecting owt else. is there owt else i can do? i'l put some photos up tonight when i've a bit more time, i got some nice uns of my ground on the downs if anyones interested happy hunting fellas wurz Quote Link to post
rossy08 33 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 well i went out with the dog n R10 over the weekend, just a couple of moochs whilst walking him really but we got one rabbit on each outing which would've been fine, we werent expecting owt considering it was about 4 pm each time,although the rabbits like a spot of afternoon sunbathing but theyre normally put off by the amount of dog walkers that get around the ground so you never can really tell whats gonna be about... anyhow, both rabbits suffering from major bouts of mixy, which trashed this permission at the end of last summer. i was hoping it might've died off a bit over the harsh winter but it looks like it'll be back with a vengeance again, mores the pity. personally, i shoot the poor buggers if theyre suffering and dispose of the bodies in a bin bag well away from the ground to try and stop the dead uns infecting owt else. is there owt else i can do? i'l put some photos up tonight when i've a bit more time, i got some nice uns of my ground on the downs if anyones interested happy hunting fellas wurz hi ya mate would love to see the pics, ill have a look when you have more time to put them up. mixy ay never good, had this around where i used to shot around 6-7 years ago, got that bad that it wasent worth taking the gun out, could almost run after them and neck them, it killed 90% of the bunnies off. there back with avengence now tho. im not shure theres alot more you can do once one has it and goes in to the ground and tucks its self in to bed with the rest of them,there going to get it. desposing of the ones you do shoot will help a little as there not then exsposing all the others to it again, id get down there with the gun and some freinds and start getting as many per night kits and all to reduce the chance of infection to the rest. some one elce may be able to help you with a few more ideas tho mate. all the best with it Andy ps have a look into it as i cant rember if we can spead it around on our boots ect ect. Quote Link to post
gurtwurz 793 Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 well i went out with the dog n R10 over the weekend, just a couple of moochs whilst walking him really but we got one rabbit on each outing which would've been fine, we werent expecting owt considering it was about 4 pm each time,although the rabbits like a spot of afternoon sunbathing but theyre normally put off by the amount of dog walkers that get around the ground so you never can really tell whats gonna be about... anyhow, both rabbits suffering from major bouts of mixy, which trashed this permission at the end of last summer. i was hoping it might've died off a bit over the harsh winter but it looks like it'll be back with a vengeance again, mores the pity. personally, i shoot the poor buggers if theyre suffering and dispose of the bodies in a bin bag well away from the ground to try and stop the dead uns infecting owt else. is there owt else i can do? i'l put some photos up tonight when i've a bit more time, i got some nice uns of my ground on the downs if anyones interested happy hunting fellas wurz hi ya mate would love to see the pics, ill have a look when you have more time to put them up. mixy ay never good, had this around where i used to shot around 6-7 years ago, got that bad that it wasent worth taking the gun out, could almost run after them and neck them, it killed 90% of the bunnies off. there back with avengence now tho. im not shure theres alot more you can do once one has it and goes in to the ground and tucks its self in to bed with the rest of them,there going to get it. desposing of the ones you do shoot will help a little as there not then exsposing all the others to it again, id get down there with the gun and some freinds and start getting as many per night kits and all to reduce the chance of infection to the rest. some one elce may be able to help you with a few more ideas tho mate. all the best with it Andy ps have a look into it as i cant rember if we can spead it around on our boots ect ect. you might have hit the nail on the head there andy,i'll have to leave the mutt at home and blast the two burys that seem to be carrying it at the mo, try and reduce the chances of em spreading it to the others.i would get some mates up there but 1, i aint got any lol and 2,the farmers a bit funny about taking anyone he doesnt know up there,and to be honest, the last time i introduced a pal to a landowner the shitebag nicked my permission!! hows it up in notts? when i left home i lived in sneinton and st annes for a few years but the city did my loaf in so i came down thisaway when i had a chance to.. cheers, wurz Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 hi ya wurz i did my phostoxin course and passed yesterday and on the question asked what % of rabbits are infected with mixy ? and i was shocked when it turned out the mixy only accounts for 20% of rabbits now days ? i really thought it would be alot more than that shay Quote Link to post
rossy08 33 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 well i went out with the dog n R10 over the weekend, just a couple of moochs whilst walking him really but we got one rabbit on each outing which would've been fine, we werent expecting owt considering it was about 4 pm each time,although the rabbits like a spot of afternoon sunbathing but theyre normally put off by the amount of dog walkers that get around the ground so you never can really tell whats gonna be about... anyhow, both rabbits suffering from major bouts of mixy, which trashed this permission at the end of last summer. i was hoping it might've died off a bit over the harsh winter but it looks like it'll be back with a vengeance again, mores the pity. personally, i shoot the poor buggers if theyre suffering and dispose of the bodies in a bin bag well away from the ground to try and stop the dead uns infecting owt else. is there owt else i can do? i'l put some photos up tonight when i've a bit more time, i got some nice uns of my ground on the downs if anyones interested happy hunting fellas wurz hi ya mate would love to see the pics, ill have a look when you have more time to put them up. mixy ay never good, had this around where i used to shot around 6-7 years ago, got that bad that it wasent worth taking the gun out, could almost run after them and neck them, it killed 90% of the bunnies off. there back with avengence now tho. im not shure theres alot more you can do once one has it and goes in to the ground and tucks its self in to bed with the rest of them,there going to get it. desposing of the ones you do shoot will help a little as there not then exsposing all the others to it again, id get down there with the gun and some freinds and start getting as many per night kits and all to reduce the chance of infection to the rest. some one elce may be able to help you with a few more ideas tho mate. all the best with it Andy ps have a look into it as i cant rember if we can spead it around on our boots ect ect. you might have hit the nail on the head there andy,i'll have to leave the mutt at home and blast the two burys that seem to be carrying it at the mo, try and reduce the chances of em spreading it to the others.i would get some mates up there but 1, i aint got any lol and 2,the farmers a bit funny about taking anyone he doesnt know up there,and to be honest, the last time i introduced a pal to a landowner the shitebag nicked my permission!! hows it up in notts? when i left home i lived in sneinton and st annes for a few years but the city did my loaf in so i came down thisaway when i had a chance to.. cheers, wurz yeah best off not taking the dog dont want him ragging manky bunnies around. they ant freinds if there nicking yur permission . as for notts struggeling to rember why i moved getting good land up hear is like trying to platt piss. have to spend about 40mins in the car or 2 houers on a bus to get bk to derbyshire to where my older permission is. doing my head in.. as for the mixy if you can identifi witch burrows have it then focus on them as the burrows wont mix together so theres less cance of it spreading if you could wipe out the bad ones then leave the good ones to build up a little.. if that makes sence. let me know how you go on pal. Andy Quote Link to post
gurtwurz 793 Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 hi ya wurz i did my phostoxin course and passed yesterday and on the question asked what % of rabbits are infected with mixy ? and i was shocked when it turned out the mixy only accounts for 20% of rabbits now days ? i really thought it would be alot more than that shay blimey shay, thats not too bad really then, tho i reckon on one of my permissions last year it was loads more than that, or at least the % of shot bunnies was!! hows the wobbley going buddy, ya happy with her still? i've just realised i can afford an ultra so i'm trying to persuade meself that i dont need one but i'm unsure how successfull i'll be there, be useful as a night gun for lamping from the motor all the best, wurz Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 hi ya wurz yeah real happy with the webley matey and yeah i thought that too pal but thats what i got told yesterday wurz mad aint it well i just took on 4 wasp jobs and no duster lol aint doing to good at the minute so had to sweet talk the wife into buying me one and it comes in the morning thank you sx plus i am off out tonight i hope but i might have to stay in with the wife nah i think i will go shooting shay Quote Link to post
rossy08 33 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 hi ya wurz yeah real happy with the webley matey and yeah i thought that too pal but thats what i got told yesterday wurz mad aint it well i just took on 4 wasp jobs and no duster lol aint doing to good at the minute so had to sweet talk the wife into buying me one and it comes in the morning thank you sx plus i am off out tonight i hope but i might have to stay in with the wife nah i think i will go shooting shay humm out with the new toy :clapping: or in with the wife think i know where id be mate. may have to do some begging and may be some be for id get away with out a :vava: Andy Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 hi ya andy done that i got her a new phone today but i have to go out tommorrow now as i have just been call to yet another wasps nest in a loft i dont like wasps the little hurt but hey it pays the bills but i will be letting everyone know what she is like after a night shooting shay Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 hi ya wurz i did my phostoxin course and passed yesterday and on the question asked what % of rabbits are infected with mixy ? and i was shocked when it turned out the mixy only accounts for 20% of rabbits now days ? i really thought it would be alot more than that shay Hi shay, Did they tell you why the numbers are so low? When initially Mixy wiped out 98% of the wild rabbit population when it firs made it over here. Killing a bunny with mixy is now fast becomming a double edged sword The reason is that the bunnies immune system has adapted and is now getting better at fighting the disease and more and more bunnies are surviving their bouts of mixy. Each one that survives it and breeds then produces a better immunity in the next generation of bunnies. Therefore if we kill all bunnies with it, its actually preventing future bunnies from developing a higher resistance to the disease and leaves future generations more prone to its effects The scientists are quite amazed how such a dreadful disease is being beaten in such a short (relatively speaking) period of time. Often you may find a bunny when skinned has lumps and recovered scabbed over leisions (sp?). Double edged sword or what? Phantom Quote Link to post
gurtwurz 793 Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 definitley a paradox phantom, but i reckon that even if youu concentrated on 1 bury, you'd be unlikely to get all the infected rabbits so immunity wouldnt be wiped out, especially if you tried to leave the healthy, and probably immune rabbits alone whilst culling the sick uns? atb, wurz Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 I agree with Phantom on this one. They do develop a resistance over time and while the poor little buggers do suffer badly and many of them die from it, some do recover and pass on the resistance to the next generations. Rabbits wander from warren to warren and if the infection's there it'll soon get passed around. It lives in the fleas and they'll still be a fair few of those in the burrows after the rabbit's dead... If ever I've seen mixy on a shoot, I've always let it run it's course. The bloody thing's man-made anyway over in Auz to try to kill them over there 'cos they're not an indiginus (spelling??) animal there and they compete with the sheep for food. Just my thoughts.... Cheers. Quote Link to post
venomviper 129 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 hi ya wurz i did my phostoxin course and passed yesterday and on the question asked what % of rabbits are infected with mixy ? and i was shocked when it turned out the mixy only accounts for 20% of rabbits now days ? i really thought it would be alot more than that shay Hi shay, Did they tell you why the numbers are so low? When initially Mixy wiped out 98% of the wild rabbit population when it firs made it over here. Killing a bunny with mixy is now fast becomming a double edged sword The reason is that the bunnies immune system has adapted and is now getting better at fighting the disease and more and more bunnies are surviving their bouts of mixy. Each one that survives it and breeds then produces a better immunity in the next generation of bunnies. Therefore if we kill all bunnies with it, its actually preventing future bunnies from developing a higher resistance to the disease and leaves future generations more prone to its effects The scientists are quite amazed how such a dreadful disease is being beaten in such a short (relatively speaking) period of time. Often you may find a bunny when skinned has lumps and recovered scabbed over leisions (sp?). Double edged sword or what? Phantom hi ya tony mate no he never went it to it buddy but he said about VHD that nearly wiped out all rabbits in the uk but now it has gone almost and i think it came from china he said but dont quote me on it i cant remember as i had a lot to take in but he was very good at his job and easy to listen to more than most and he knew a lot of things i didnt but hey we aint to old to learn hey tony shay Quote Link to post
gurtwurz 793 Posted April 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 so was it the missus or rabbits in the end shay? i got out while she did the tesco run earlier, shes good like that, but forgot the dogs lead so we got sod all... you cant ambush a bury when the dogs decided to try and bolt everything from the bury you fancied!! all the best, wurz Quote Link to post
Phantom 631 Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 You are correct with the VHD (aka RHD) it was developed in China its a very nasty disease and its still around It used to be a reportable disease, but it spread so fast and wide that they gave up trying to isolate it and let it run. With VHD the infected bunny usually dies within the first 12 hours, those that survive the initial 12 hours become anorexic and will usually die within 2 weeks of starvation Remember my Manky Stinky bunny out of the grave? I think that may have been a survivor of the 1st 12 hours. I'm glad I got to it before it died of starvation, but boy did it stink There aint many things that can draw flies off a bag of freshly decaying internal organs and intestines is there? But that bunny cleared all the flys away from the guts and onto itself Phantom Quote Link to post
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