Running away with er tail in the air (fumin!!!)

[Sully 3]

Hi all, hope that your all well,

Right Sexy Lexy is doing well, however Im still doing lots of work with a dummy ( no not the wife) stuffed rabbit skin, she'll locate it and bring it towards me but then just as she's about to stop and offer it me, off she goes, tail wagging and du know somatt, im sure she was sticking 2 fingers up at me, my dilemma,if I whistle her, she'll stop straight away and return to me minus the dummy, when I wait and she eventually comes back, I cant give her ass a slap as then surely it seems im slapping her for doing as she's told (albeit eventually)your advive would be greatly appreciated, Ive tried swapping the skin for a treat and there is always loads of praise heaped on her (maybe too much) Thanks for your help

atb Craig and a stubborn bitch called Lexy.

Edited March 19, 2010 by Sully

[poacher3161 1,766]

Turn around and turn your back on her and walk away she will see it as a game if you go chaseing after her and will do it even more.

[Sully 3]

good point, I used to do that if she didnt come back when I re-called her, I will most certainly try it, Thanks, Poacher

[watchman 256]

im certainly no expert,got a few retrieving probs of my own at the minute,but had the same sort thing years ago with a dog,i used to get down on my knees as she approached with the dummy,this seemed to entice her right up to me allowing me to take dummy from her,after a few tries at this with complete success gradually stood up,in she came,just a thought and something else to try when all else fails,also agree with advice from poacher

[poacher3161 1,766]

Some times avoiding direct eye contact works it worked with my beddy cross though she does growl [bANNED TEXT] giving me the gundog dummy wich i have never noticed in other hybreds i have had.

[watchman 256]

Some times avoiding direct eye contact works it worked with my beddy cross though she does growl [bANNED TEXT] giving me the gundog dummy wich i have never noticed in other hybreds i have had.

Edited March 19, 2010 by watchman

[blackpack 70]

try in a alleyway bud, throw dummy let her go she cant get passed you in a aleyway when she comes toward you, its worked with all mine, never scold the dog bud or shout, she will never retrieve again, plenty of praise and treats when she does it. Good luck

[blacktabs 3]

As Poacher said running in the opposite direction works but like blackpack i use jennels and tight spaces for retrieving taining first then in the fields and do the send back find thats better than throwing dummys.

Also as grown dogs if there not working then they are keeping fit with the ball all dogs love ballwork and retrieving is part and parcel of the game plus it learns pups to strike and open their mouths do it as often as possible better ten minutes with a ball than a walk round the block atb.

[sh 08 17]

Stop stressing so much, thats a start. my lurcher wouldnt bring anything back until she caught her first rabbit, when she did it was live back to hand. now she brings sticks and balls back aswell. dogs are different

[runforyourlife 361]

Stop stressing so much, thats a start. my lurcher wouldnt bring anything back until she caught her first rabbit, when she did it was live back to hand. now she brings sticks and balls back aswell. dogs are different

 

 

Dogs are different, and yes they do different things but i didnt see anyone really stressing here! I also only saw someone wanting to train there luurcher, a command what most working dogs are shown how to do! Imagine if everybody said, "oh, dont bother mate training "the fetching of a dumy", and dont stress, it will do it when it catches its first rabbit" lol, thats a great bit of armory to have in your kit pal...

[sh 08 17]

perhaps i put it wrong, it just takes time thwe dog will do it in its own time thats what i was trying to say, i sort of no craig and no how much he panics

Edited March 21, 2010 by sh 08

[Malt 379]

I used a flexi lead and short throws when I was training my lurcher to retrieve. Plenty of praise when I got the dummy back off him, worked a treat!

[sh 08 17]

good idea, sully how far is the ball/ dummy being thrown? may be short distances would work so its not too far to bring it back

[skycat 6,174]

The dog needs to see whatever you throw as 'your' possession, so shouldn't want to run off with it. Jim Greenwood taught me this trick, and it has worked with even the most horrible dogs LOL

 

Sit or crouch down in the back yard or garden and play with a ball or dummy or whatever: scoot it around your feet, laugh to yourself and make out you're having a good time: I know it sounds crazy but believe me, if you are worried about looking a prat then don't bother trying to train a dog LOL LOL.

 

The dog will come over and natural curiosity will make it wonder what the hell you are doing: don't matter if the dog thinks your'e nuts as long as it comes over and has a nose: don't let it take the dummy, just carry on playing with it, chuck it in the air a few times and catch it: all the time ignoring the dog.

 

Do this for just a few moments: you don't want the dog to lose interest in move away, then throw the dummy just a couple of metres away, no more: dog should dive on the dummy because it has seen you having so much fun already. Call dog straight away, and although I admit there must be a dog that won't do this, it will bring the dummy to you cos it thinks it is your's: that is unless the dog has no respect for you whatsoever in which case that is a different problem altogtether and one that needs you to go back to the start and alter your relationship with the dog: one where you are the boss and the dog is beneath you.

 

Suppposing the dog brings you the dummy, don't immediately grab it from him/her: put hand on dummy, stroke dog with other hand at same time as preventing it moving away. Then say Give in very stern voice, and dog will give if you have done everything right as it knows this is your dummy and not his.

 

Do a couple more times at most: never more than 3 at a time, or 3 in a day: keep dog really wanting this, and never let it play with dummy when your'e not there: it is YOUR dummy and not dog's toy.

 

Hope this helps.

[Sully 3]

Great advice given Thanks, I tried the walk away thingy today and it worked brilliantly, I now will persue this method, I do however like your method Skycat and will indeed re-iterate Lexy's training, as for SH08, do you really know me ? in the real world I mean ? Im not ngetting stressed I just want to give my dog the best possible opportunity I can, saying this, it's no problem and I dont want anyone falling out over it ! Thanks for you help everyone.