Lurchers and Longdogs

[poacher3161 1,766]

it was in that lambourne book and the bloke ,woburn abbey and the bloke was called jb if its the same case.

Thats it i remember it being in one of the sunday papers in the 70s and being young and impresionable looked on him as being some kind of hero for the feat he had done with this one dog though the other offence he was charged with soffend it a bit.atb dell

[DEERMAN 1,020]

it was in that lambourne book and the bloke ,woburn abbey and the bloke was called jb if its the same case.

Thats it i remember it being in one of the sunday papers in the 70s and being young and impresionable looked on him as being some kind of hero for the feat he had done with this one dog though the other offence he was charged with soffend it a bit.atb dell

i didnt see the paper just in the book and he came across was bulled up as some kind of hero....what was the other offence or the details in paper mate?

[DEERMAN 1,020]

i remember the pic of the bloke it said in spite of his youth prob the most famous 20th century poacher....lol great as a kid i thought thats what i want to be lol lol

[poacher3161 1,766]

it was in that lambourne book and the bloke ,woburn abbey and the bloke was called jb if its the same case.

Thats it i remember it being in one of the sunday papers in the 70s and being young and impresionable looked on him as being some kind of hero for the feat he had done with this one dog though the other offence he was charged with soffend it a bit.atb dell

i didnt see the paper just in the book and he came across was bulled up as some kind of hero....what was the other offence or the details in paper mate?

It was a long time ago mate and i would not like to say but the deer poaching offences were well known due to being printed in some lurcher books.atb dell

[J Darcy 5,871]

What need to be remembered is that the tit who killed PD Deer was not a poacher, he was running captive park deer and therefore a thief.

Captive deer cannot be poached and anyone who goes and kills park deer , that cannot escape, will get the book thrown at them........JD

[Guest 2GOOD]

i remember the pic of the bloke it said in spite of his youth prob the most famous 20th century poacher....lol great as a kid i thought thats what i want to be lol lol

did you ever acheive it ,

[Guest 2GOOD]

What need to be remembered is that the tit who killed PD Deer was not a poacher, he was running captive park deer and therefore a thief.

Captive deer cannot be poached and anyone who goes and kills park deer , that cannot escape, will get the book thrown at them........JD

well JD all the news papers seem to call poachers THIEFS

if caught and convicted ,especialy when it comes to phesants and other wild game ,the people that own most deer parks are stealing deer ,so what is the difference

[J Darcy 5,871]

What need to be remembered is that the tit who killed PD Deer was not a poacher, he was running captive park deer and therefore a thief.

Captive deer cannot be poached and anyone who goes and kills park deer , that cannot escape, will get the book thrown at them........JD

well JD all the news papers seem to call poachers THIEFS

if caught and convicted ,especialy when it comes to phesants and other wild game ,the people that own most deer parks are stealing deer ,so what is the difference

 

 

What are you on about?....

Its impossible to "steal" wild game.......

 

and how have the people who own deer parks stole deer??

 

I would truly love to know how the Duke of Bedford stole his Pere David's!!

 

great fun this internet malarky!!!

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

Lads are still killing deer with dogs and leaving them, i found two before xmas.

they wernt hiden either, just left in the middle of a field.

there are still knob heads killing stuff just to say they have

[Guest 2GOOD]

What need to be remembered is that the tit who killed PD Deer was not a poacher, he was running captive park deer and therefore a thief.

Captive deer cannot be poached and anyone who goes and kills park deer , that cannot escape, will get the book thrown at them........JD

well JD all the news papers seem to call poachers THIEFS

if caught and convicted ,especialy when it comes to phesants and other wild game ,the people that own most deer parks are stealing deer ,so what is the difference

 

 

What are you on about?....

Its impossible to "steal" wild game.......

 

and how have the people who own deer parks stole deer??

 

I would truly love to know how the Duke of Bedford stole his Pere David's!!

 

great fun this internet malarky!!!

then why do a lot of convictions include theft ,because the game was taken on some one elses ground ,i should know i was convicted of theft of wild salmon so has hundreds if not thousands of others ,its all the same ,and i will now educate you on how deer parks steel deer [and there was me thinking you knew most things when it comes to this game ]most deer parks have what is known as deer leaps ,[i hope you know what they are ]they are suposed to be used to entice any escapes back into the park ,well wild deer are enticed in as well ,and that is theft ,because the owners just keep them ,i dont know if the duke has a deer leap but i bet he does ,every deer park i used to have fun in had one ,and i walked about a lot of parks in my younger days ,and was proud to be called a thief when it came to running deer ,you could have called me any thing you liked ,as long as i was doing what i loved ,only wish i was a bit younger and quicker ,i would probibly still be anoying some owner of a park some where ,

[jimmy100 48]

What need to be remembered is that the tit who killed PD Deer was not a poacher, he was running captive park deer and therefore a thief.

Captive deer cannot be poached and anyone who goes and kills park deer , that cannot escape, will get the book thrown at them........JD

well JD all the news papers seem to call poachers THIEFS

if caught and convicted ,especialy when it comes to phesants and other wild game ,the people that own most deer parks are stealing deer ,so what is the difference

 

 

What are you on about?....

Its impossible to "steal" wild game.......

 

and how have the people who own deer parks stole deer??

 

I would truly love to know how the Duke of Bedford stole his Pere David's!!

 

great fun this internet malarky!!!

then why do a lot of convictions include theft ,because the game was taken on some one elses ground ,i should know i was convicted of theft of wild salmon so has hundreds if not thousands of others ,its all the same ,and i will now educate you on how deer parks steel deer [and there was me thinking you knew most things when it comes to this game ]most deer parks have what is known as deer leaps ,[i hope you know what they are ]they are suposed to be used to entice any escapes back into the park ,well wild deer are enticed in as well ,and that is theft ,because the owners just keep them ,i dont know if the duke has a deer leap but i bet he does ,every deer park i used to have fun in had one ,and i walked about a lot of parks in my younger days ,and was proud to be called a thief when it came to running deer ,you could have called me any thing you liked ,as long as i was doing what i loved ,only wish i was a bit younger and quicker ,i would probibly still be anoying some owner of a park some where ,

watch it you will get banned taking the piss out of the great jd!!! just found this thought it was worth posting....... THE MEDIEVAL DEER PARK – By Jenny Burt

 

Northamptonshire Gardens Trust - June, 1999.

 

A synopsis of a lecture by Tony Squires, a landscape historian, and member of the Leicestershire and Rutland Gardens Trust, on the subject of the Medieval Deer Park.

 

The concept of the deer park was introduced by the Normans and formed an integral part of the manorial system, playing a major role in the economy and indeed the leisure pursuits of the Lord of the Manor. In Midland areas, the Manorial estate was practically self-sufficient, the land had to provide arable, meadows and woodland, and deer parks were formed only on those estates of the very rich, nobility and the great clerics, who spent much of their time hunting. Land of poor fertility was utilised, and no parks are to be found in areas of high production. The Earl of Cornwall had 21 parks spread over the country whilst the Bishop of Durham had 13.

 

The deer parks were often at some distance from the manor house and might have a small hunting lodge either within or on their boundaries. (At Drayton, Northamptonshire, the old deer park was actually in the parish of Slipton). Tony pointed out that Northamptonshire was covered in vast tracts of woodland, much of which has continued almost to the present day, for example Rockingham, Salcey and Whittlewood forests. These forests were originally the preserve of the King and were governed by Forest Law, much resented by the nobility, and the red, roe and fallow deer and the boar were hunted by the King, the Huntsman's role being to lead the King and his lords towards the quarry.

 

Not all of the forest was woodland. Parts were deliberately devoid of trees for the purpose of providing grazing areas, known as 'hays' or lawns, and later landscaped parklands can frequently be traced back to these areas with the mansion house built over or onto the hunting lodge (e.g. Wakefield Lawn, near Towcester). In addition, the deer park may have a 'warren' or 'coneygarth' where rabbits were raised for food, sometimes surrounded by a moated ditch. (There is an area adjacent to the old Drayton deer park, known as the nunnery, which in all probability was a moated warren).

 

Tony pointed out the characteristics of the medieval deer park. The area was fenced around with a deerproof boundary, an internal ditch about six feet deep and an outer bank of around six feet in height with a fence or pale along its top. Thus deer could leap into the park, sometimes over a purpose built deer leap, but could not escape. The parks were often round or oval in shape to minimise on fencing, whilst sometimes part of the boundary was terminated by water. The area contained within the boundaries averaged about 200 acres, divided into woodland and hays.

 

Since the King owned all the deer, licences were granted by him to enable areas to be emparked by his subjects, and from these licences we can gain some knowledge of the number of parklands. During the first period of the Norman conquest there were few parklands, but these numbers increased until the peak prior to the Black Death of 1347, when a decline set in, only the larger deer parks surviving. Professor Leonard Cantor in his Gazetteer of Deer Parks listed 42 for Northamptonshire, the earliest being that of Higham Ferrers, whose boundaries are coterminous with the county boundary of Bedfordshire.

 

Tony suggested we searched Northamptonshire for examples of medieval deer parks using the clues such as field names including the word ‘Park’

 

September 10, 1999

[inan 841]

The book was first published in 1977 so taking deer by false light can only of been in its infancy back then?

Page 63 in the book shows how much lamping was still in its infancy.I remember DB Plummer taking the piss out of the 2 pictures shown, and saying how cumbersome the equipment looked.

[Guest 2GOOD]

jimmy 100 ,that was a interesting read ,and always remember some thing i learnd in life THERE IS ALWAYS SOME ONE GREATER THAN YOU

Edited February 24, 2010 by 2GOOD

[jimmy100 48]

You are living in the past fellah,...

 

Nowadays,.you will get 'proper fecked',..for killing enclosed deer in parks,....

 

 

I agree i would never go in a pen myself it is unsporting but your very wrong about younger lads making profit from hunting plus i used to do it for sport and my own meat 1st and any money was a bonus i just had a job to cover my bills!! work hard play harder!

Edited February 24, 2010 by CHALKWARREN

[Guest 2GOOD]

[i do know of another one[alsation story along the same lines ] ,but it will only end in a book being writen ,

 

Write it then,.fer fecks sake....

not at the moment ,im still walking the wild country ,plus i would knot know what to do with all the money made from the readers .

 

: You could send some vonga to us poor old has beens,...coz its getting grim darn sarf,.living on shushis....

then only one thing for you to do COME OUT OF RETIREMENT : : :and have proper meat to eat and feal the buz again .

Edited February 24, 2010 by 2GOOD