Ban On Game Shooting

[Cajunrules 8]

Thought I'd put this up for anyone who has'nt had the CA email:

 

 

There is no shortage of organisations and individuals justifying their existence by taking pot-shots at the fieldsports community but an uncomfortably high number of shooters insist there is no direct political threat to shooting. Given the outrageous amount of time wasted on devising unworkable and illiberal anti-hunting legislation, many wrongly assumed there was little appetite to launch an attack on shooting. How wrong could they be?

 

A recent Early Day Motion (EDM) put down by Labour MP David Taylor reads as follows: ''That this House notes that every year in Britain around 35 million pheasants and six million partridges are purpose bred in cages, sheds and pens so that they can be released and shot for sport; is concerned about the suffering endured by these birds and by the large number of indigenous wild mammals and birds that are trapped, snared, poisoned and shot to protect this activity; is alarmed by the thousands of tons of leadshot and plastic casings discharged annually by live quarry shooters, and also by the disruption caused to native wildlife at the start of each shooting season when the millions of pheasants and partridges are released; and calls on the Government to enact legislation at the earliest opportunity to prohibit the production of birds for sport shooting, in line with the ban introduced in Holland in 2002.'

 

It must be said that EDMs simply allow MPs to express their support for an issue. However, I find it extremely disturbing - but not surprising - that at the time of writing 65 MPs have signed Mr Taylor's EDM. That means more than 10% of MPs currently sitting in the House of Commons want to ban game shooting. While one Conservative MP, Ann Widdecombe, has signed along with a few Liberal Democrats, the majority of signatories are Labour MPs.

 

There are some Labour MPs, such as our own chairman, who support shooting, but it is an unavoidable fact that this is a predominantly Labour-driven EDM. I doubt the signatories have read Labour's Charter for Shooting (or even know it exists) and perhaps they have forgotten Labour's Manifesto commitment to protect shooting. It all reminds me of the desperate clamour by many MPs during the pre-hunt ban period when they attempted to convince the shooting community that their sport would be safe with Labour - it was only hunting they were after, they said. Yet since 1997, during the time it took to cook up a single piece of legislation on hunting, almost 30 laws were passed restricting shooting in one form or another.

 

It cannot be long before a private member's bill is introduced which calls for the ban on driven game shooting. While most of them fail and it is easy to be dismissive of EDMs, the shooting community should not forget the consistent annual bombardment of Parliament by MPs launching private members bills to ban hunting. Eventually they wore down a hostile House of Commons. They could do it again.

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Edited September 3, 2019 by grant_c

[craigyboy 1,274]

theres no way in the world in my opinion driven shooting will ever be banned

 

i wouldnt be so sure there mate as long as labour are in theres a chance

and if left to them c**ts theyd soon class fishing as worm drowning

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Edited September 3, 2019 by grant_c

[alimac 882]

Grant ur right about the money side, im sure in scotland alone driven shooting brings 200 million per year to our shores, but on the flip side when they were putting the hunting act up, there were big figures printed on how much the local economys would loose if it went through, the high profile and powerfull folk in the hunting scene couldnt stop it either, so i for one wouldnt take it lightly..

 

In general this country sucks

Edited October 30, 2009 by alimac

[whin 463]

ban the lot and bring back coursing and hunting with dogs and hawks, serously if they banned shooting ther would be more land for unorganised days , thye stopped shooting alot down my way not so much organised shoots , its not hurt the community , they opend it up to the public to walk they get revinues in a diffrent way ,never been a keen follower of rearing twenty thousand birds to blast would rether se well managed shoots with less birds and more pest control

[SportingShooter 0]

Whether you like Driven Game shooting or not, I wouldn't be so naive to think that once that is banned, then other forms of shooting will soon follow.

 

To be complacent and think that Shooting is never going to be banned is foolish, it can be banned like anything else. Since when did the Government give a toss for tradition or rural communities?

 

I might remind everyone, that an Early Day Motion was how the Hunting Ban found its foundations, which led to a Private Members Bill which was the first nail in the coffin for hunting as it brought it to MPs attention.

 

Can we ban MPs?

[birdman6 10]

ban the lot and bring back coursing and hunting with dogs and hawks, serously if they banned shooting ther would be more land for unorganised days , thye stopped shooting alot down my way not so much organised shoots , its not hurt the community , they opend it up to the public to walk they get revinues in a diffrent way ,never been a keen follower of rearing twenty thousand birds to blast would rether se well managed shoots with less birds and more pest control

 

you have got blinkers on mate! when they brought the hunting in they tried to turn shooting folk and hunting folk agains each other. we all need to stand together!!! As for not baning it because the royal family shoot the royal family went fox hunting aswell!!! :realmad:

[Malt 379]

I wouldn't put it past them to try to force this through before they get booted out at the next election. Once last swipe at the Tories by proxy of the shooting community.

 

They are a wounded animal, they know they are on their last legs, and as we all know a wounded animal is a very dangerous beast..

 

This line from Moby Dick says it all for me:

 

"To the last, I will grapple with thee...

 

From Hell's heart, I stab at thee!

 

For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!"

[Swampy 147]

NEVER EVER TRUST A POLITICIAN!

 

FFS When will we learn?

 

If its a vote winner they'll support it.

Educating folk is the only way to quash these ridiculous ideas.

Someone has already said that the amount of birds shot to the amount of birds released equates to roughly 50/50. That is supporting the countryside, ruural communities, restaraunts, pubs and farmers.

 

Never get complacent about the things MP say........its a very dangerous thing to do.

And long dog men, stand together with us on this one! We're all in the same boat1

 

Swampy

 

 

driven to ning

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited September 3, 2019 by grant_c

[sikastag_1 689]

double post.

Edited October 30, 2009 by grant_c

[Cajunrules 8]

Whether you like Driven Game shooting or not, I wouldn't be so naive to think that once that is banned, then other forms of shooting will soon follow.

 

To be complacent and think that Shooting is never going to be banned is foolish, it can be banned like anything else. Since when did the Government give a toss for tradition or rural communities?

 

I might remind everyone, that an Early Day Motion was how the Hunting Ban found its foundations, which led to a Private Members Bill which was the first nail in the coffin for hunting as it brought it to MPs attention.

 

Can we ban MPs?

 

 

Spot on SS.

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited September 3, 2019 by grant_c

[Swampy 147]

NEVER EVER TRUST A POLITICIAN!

 

FFS When will we learn?

 

If its a vote winner they'll support it.

Educating folk is the only way to quash these ridiculous ideas.

Someone has already said that the amount of birds shot to the amount of birds released equates to roughly 50/50. That is supporting the countryside, ruural communities, restaraunts, pubs and farmers.

 

Never get complacent about the things MP say........its a very dangerous thing to do.

And long dog men, stand together with us on this one! We're all in the same boat1

 

Swampy

 

 

driven to ning

 

 

 

i agree about educating people mate but the big thing is they either dont want to listen or are to arrogant to understand anything, in the same course we done a module it was all the hnc gamekeeping students and all the hnc conservationists and had a bit of a conference and these people dont want to know they think you just throw pheasants down and shoot them along with poisoning birds of pray, killing badgers and the good old fox, thats theyre idea of a gamekeeper and thats all they want to know they would ask us questions we would reply and they were nto intrested about damage predators can do to everything not just game birds or anything that contradicts what they believe, im quite a short fused person and when in this discussion with them i had to hold my breath a few times and it wasnt easy these people are too stuck up on what the press release rather than the real side and real storys, my girlfriends cousin is doing the hnc conservation course in the same college although hes far from an anti hes like any of us and to be honest every day hes at college he comes home with a different story on how thick these fuckers actually are, they went up north the other day doing species identification, 1 of them had to ask her cousin what the bird they could see was, his reply was that birds a pheasant this is how thick these people are, same with hunt protestors how many actually know what really gos on, very few the rest just think its dogs taring apart every fox theyre not even intrested in what a fox tears apart, and to be honest mate this will never change neither will the world the odds are against us the only thing we can do to help is educate our own and hope that theyll be able to hunt shoot and fish when theyre older.

 

It sound s to me like the course for conservationism is being run by politically motivated lecturers.

To be fair I suspect that they were saying exactly the same about you (not listening etc etc...).

This is where education and politics become very efficient and dangerous tools for those who know how to use them.

Unfortunately the youth (majority) of today have not grown up with the experience and intellectual tools to form their own opinions but rely on the internet and word of mouth for their basis of arguement.

This can clearly be seen by the higher pass rates in exams but with lower pass rates when it comes to subjects such as general knowledge. The education system is deeply flawed but that is another arguement.

The change in attitude towards hunting I suspect, is due to the balance of poulation moving towards more urban lifestyle and the rural way of life is being diminished.

Sadly this inequality is unlikey to be rectified. Population increase and enviromental pressures being some but not all of the reasons.

I believe that one day we will be fighting for our hunting rights on the grounds that we are an ethnic minority and that we need to preserve our way of life. People will look upon us rather quaint!

The need to keep shouting now is never greater.

RicW may have more to say about this!

 

rgds

 

Swampy

 

"Non illigitimi corburundum"......Ning