best deer dog pre ban

[Joe1302 0]

would have a deerhound/greyhound X beddie greyhound/ deerhound

[awen 29]

what would the beddie give for that type of hunting?

[dirtwinger 235]

theres always the ones , that kill deer instantly by hitting them hard , knocking them over and they break there neck.

 

The well known "ninja deer dog" technique

My dad had a female harris hawk that ninja'd a roe in Scotland a few years ago. Coming down off the hill a roe flushed down a burn and the harris went after it, got kicked off after the first hit then went up above the deer. The hawk came down hitting the deer hard in the head and it fell and broke it's neck!

Not bad for a 2lb bird, deer do break there necks when they fall at full tilt more than you might think. But a dog that could make them fall and break their necks every time would be highly unlikely, I'm sure it happens just not very often.

Besides since the ban i have heard that dog's have got way smarter, now they shoot them and retrieve them back to you, now thats a hell of a dog!

 

all the best Dirtwinger

[bullmastiff 615]

I Must admit, I'd would of prefered to see a dog 'throat' a deer, it would of been less stress on Deer, meat, dog and you (that cry is horrible)

All I ever saw before the Ban, were grab and hold dogs. I've never seen (only read about in books) dogs that 'flip' deer, then smoothly move in for the kill (maybe it comes with lots of practice?) They usually seem to crash to the floor in a heap either throwing the dog clear as it tumbles arse over hoof or the dog manages to keep a hold, lifting his front legs up (or stetched out in front), bringing his weight to bare on his teeth and keeping it pinned.

Did the 'throat' hold dogs ever miss whilst trying to swap holds and have the deer get away?

 

Back of the leg holds were the worst, they caused massive amounts of damage (and noise) whilst trying to drag a dog behind them,

 

Interesting one I saw once was a pelvis hold (lower jaw between the legs, upper was to the side of the tail) that caused no damage at all, with a subdued deer laying on his side, quietly till the end (I guess I would be too if a dog had my balls in his mouth!)

Also several tail holds that rather than tumbling the deer to the ground it would slowly bring them to a stop as the dog applied the brakes, it didn't seem to upset them much???, the dog anchors and the fight doesn't start until a human runs into sight.

 

If it's meat for the table you were after then it didn't matter what hold the dog got, as long as they could keep it anchored until you got there. It's still 15-20lbs of meat in the freezer.

If you were selling them then I guess a throat hold would be important? losing a rear leg to the dog everytime would lose a lot of money.

[whin 463]

NEVER HEAR SO MUCH CRAP IN MY LIFE ABOUT A FECHING DEER AFTER TWENTY FIVE SEASON OR MORE EXERSISING AND FLUSHING BEASTIES ,WHAT DOG S THIS WHAT DOGS THAT, THE BEST DOGS IVEE SAW WERE SALUKI CROSSE OUT OFF TOR OF DARTMOOR ,SOME MERLIN AND EVE DOGS BRED WITH GOOD TYPE COLLIE CROSSES FOR BIG NITES DRIVING STUBBLE A DOG HAS TO HAVE WIND , RUNNING WIND , AS YOULL GET SEVERAL CHASES ON FAST ROE , KNECK DOGS CAN BE BRED I HAVE THREE GENERAITIONS OF COLLI TYPE .BUT MAYBE LUCKY PLUS I HAVE SALUK TYPE WHO ARE CLEAN DOGS ON A BEAST, THERE ALL OLD AS THIS IS PRE BAN , THE MORE I HEAR AND SEE ON THESE INTERNETS THE LESS I LIKE ,CHEERS ,I COULD WRITE A BOOK ON IT BUT DONT FANCY EDUCATING PEOPLE FOR A TWENTY POUND BOOK , WE DO NOT USE BULL CROSSES AS THEY HAVE NOT GOT THE WIND FOR DRIVING STUBBLES ON BIG 40 TO 100 ACRE FEILDS , AND CANT HACK HARE ROE AFTER ROE , NOT MANY DOGS CAN AS IVE HAD PLENTY HUNTERS UP TO GODS COUNTRY , BUT NOT MANY OF THERE DOGS COULD STAND THE BIG LAND WITH PLENTY CHASES , A DOG HAS TO BE NOT HARD ON THEM ONCE CAUGHT AND COME OF THEM ONCE YOU GET THERE I DONT TALK TO MY DOGS ONCE IM THERE THEY KNOW WHATS WHAT , I HAD A PUP WHO TOOK TO THE KNECK NATURALY IN FACT HAD 3 OR 4 , AS THEY SOON LEARNED A GOOD WHACK OF A HOOF CAN DO , ANY WAY THIS IS ALL PRE BAN WHY NOT FORGET ABOUT IT AND QUITELY ENJOY

[whin 463]

PS TO KEEP A GOOD TEAM OF DOGS FOR HEAVY WORK LOAD ALWAYS RUN THEM WITH THERE OWN TEAM , DONT SPIOL THEM RUNNING WITH ARSE ENDERS MEAT WASTERS AS THEY LEARN YOUR DOG BAD HABITS I DONT LIKE HARD DOGS FOR ROE AS AL YOU WANT THEM TO DO IS MANHANDLE IT, NOT BUTCHER IT BEST SEASON PRE BAN WAS 179 TAKES A BIT OF DOING PLUS 30O HARE JUsT About , liKe hare coursing deer hunting the BESst days are gone but we all LIKE TO LIVE THE PAST A BIT AN HAVE BLASTS BUT I WOULD NEVER KILL UNLESS PROFIT OR FOOD ON THE TABLE ,IVE SOLD DOGS WHO COULD TAKE THRE OUT OIF THREE DAYTIME HARES BECAUSE THEY COULDNT KEEP THE TEETH OF A GOOD BACK OF HAUNCH , SUCH IS LIFE , U WANT DOGS FOR ROE TO BE NOT TO HARD GET THE KNECK OR WINDPIPE AND GET [bANNED TEXT] ASS OVER QUICK TO SORT IT OUT , THATS WHY GOOD TEAM WORK ALWAYS PUTS MEAT IN THE BAG

[Tyla 3,179]

theres always the ones , that kill deer instantly by hitting them hard , knocking them over and they break there neck.

 

The well known "ninja deer dog" technique

My dad had a female harris hawk that ninja'd a roe in Scotland a few years ago. Coming down off the hill a roe flushed down a burn and the harris went after it, got kicked off after the first hit then went up above the deer. The hawk came down hitting the deer hard in the head and it fell and broke it's neck!

Not bad for a 2lb bird, deer do break there necks when they fall at full tilt more than you might think. But a dog that could make them fall and break their necks every time would be highly unlikely, I'm sure it happens just not very often.

Besides since the ban i have heard that dog's have got way smarter, now they shoot them and retrieve them back to you, now thats a hell of a dog!

 

all the best Dirtwinger

 

lol at DW Thats something I would like to see

[WILF 49,960]

I once had a budgie that could take muntjac.

[Simoman 110]

I once had a budgie that could take muntjac.

 

Single handed wilf?

[Simoman 110]

I once had a budgie that could take muntjac.

 

Single handed wilf?

no with both hands

 

Dont budgies have wings?

[Simoman 110]

I once had a budgie that could take muntjac.

 

Single handed wilf?

no with both hands

 

Dont budgies have wings?

whay say singlehanded then

 

As in alone :wacko:

[Guest lurchers&terriers]

1 dog for roe why more? just the 1 needed

[Richie10 345]

Reckon you need 3 for muntjac.

[awen 29]

heard gsdxgrey make good deer dogs ,did anyone use them, how do they diifer from collie or bullxs thanks awen

[awen 29]

heard gsdxgrey make good deer dogs ,did anyone use them, how do they differ from collie or bullxs thanks awen