just jack 998 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 whats ning? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scent 509 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 calm down swampy ,in a way your right the problem in society needs to be looked at from a different perspective but giving out free heroin aint the answer .There are methadone projects available and free rehab for alot of addicts.Swampy have you ever had a family member hooked on heroin or buried any of your mates from an overdose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Just read a few more comments from folk now that I'm back from walking pup.I'm pleased that some have actually sat down and thought about things in a more reasonable light....hope it isn't anything to do with alcohol! Just like to add a few things if i may? 1. Sorry about the lad and the needle. thats BAD shite 2. This problem exists. 3. Someone has to sort it out. So, Control the addicts in an enviroment that is safe to us, Killing addicts is NOT the solution...they're doing it by themselves......STOP being armchair/keyboard warriors and spouting off all sorts of shite about how we should be doing things ie killing skags etc and then say we are getting out of this country and going somewhere else cause its all gone to shite. ITS ALL GONE TO SHITE 'CAUSE NO FECKER CARES ANYMORE!!!! I don't like it so I'm leaving. JEEEEEEEEZ Its there, deal with it don't run away from it! There are guys on here who have just come back from Afghan' at least they're making a difference and are prepared to put their lives on the line for a country they love. yes it's got its problems but lets sort them out....and that does not mean killing everyone who doesn't agree with the system(*). Sorry if I'm getting a bit errrr hyper about it but there is more to this than just skag heads....its our society thats failing and that's us! Always my bestest regards Swampy I need another ning! (Help me Catch!) (*)=(I am prepered to make an exception for the EU) Swampy mate you have good heart.I just cant agree wiTh you on this.You do have all the ning i can give.ATVB. Catcher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 calm down swampy ,in a way your right the problem in society needs to be looked at from a different perspective but giving out free heroin aint the answer .There are methadone projects available and free rehab for alot of addicts.Swampy have you ever had a family member hooked on heroin or buried any of your mates from an overdose? Methadone is not the solution ('scuse pun). Its worse. It doesn't cure you it just placates you. Yes I have had a friend who died indirectly from shite (Not heroin). he was an intelligent, unselfish loving father. who never stole, never told of his addiction other than to his wife and never harmed anyone. Most never knew of his problem. He was a good man 'till they day he died! You would never have known he was an addict. Those that spout off about "skags" and the like only see it from their own selfish viewpoint. They aren't all needlefreaks on street corners! rgds Swampy ning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scent 509 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 They aren't all needlefreaks on street corners! well said il leave it that swampy you seem a decent bloke with a good head on your shoulders Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 They aren't all needlefreaks on street corners! well said il leave it that swampy you seem a decent bloke with a good head on your shoulders Thanks man! Ye another respectful ning for a reasoning man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 I just picture the face of a batterd pensioner who was robbed at home after having a good win on the horses up this way a few years.Were some smack rats were tipped of to his win and robbed and beat the shit out of him.These scum were in their 40s as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) JUDGE PICKLES CHAMPIONED THIS IDEA MANY YEARS AGO , LEGALIZE DRUGS, TAKE OUT THE CUT UP DRUGS. SUPPLY ADDICTS WITH CLEAN GEAR ETC. HE STUDIED THE EFFECTS ON SOCIETY, AS WITH ALL SOCIAL PROBLEMS THE POOR ARE AFFECTED THE MOST. THE BURDEN OF ADDICTION IS NOT ONLY FELT BY THE ADDICT BUT THEIR FAMILY'S SUFFER GREATLY , AGREE OR DISAGREE DRUGS ARE HE CURSE OF THE 80s, 90s, AND NOW WITH CRISTAL METH ETC , THE OUT OF SITE OUT OF MIND SCENARIO DOES NOT WORK , THERE ARE MANY WEALTHY ADDICTS OUT THERE TOO, WHO WORK AND LIVE NEAR NORMAL LIVES , AS THERE DRUGS ARE NOT CUT AND RIDDLED WITH WHO KNOWS WHAT , MOST ADDICTS ARE NOT ADDICTED TO HEROIN AS THERE DRUG OF CHOISE HAS BEEN CUT UP THAT MANY TIMES THE POWDER THEY FINALLY INJECT IS ALMOST HEROIN FREE THEY ARE ADDICTED TO THE IDEAL , READ JUDGE PICKLES BOOK VERY POWERFULLY AND EYE OPENING ,TAKE THE PROBLEM OFF THE STREETS , WE PAY AT THE END OF THE DAY THRU WASTED POLICE AND HEALTH WORKERS TIME , ALL THE HATE IN THE WORLD WILL NOT STOP THE IMPORTATION OF ILLIGAL DRUGS , COMPERTION WILL , AFGANISTAN THE BIGGEST PRODUCER , LET THEM GROW IT AND SURPLY IT, TAX IT , WOULD YOU TAKE IT . HOW MANY FAMILYS WOULD BE FREE OF A CURSE , UNLESS YOU HAVE SEEN OR LOST SOME ONE TO DRUGS ITS EASY TO PASS JUDGEMENT METHADONE AINT THE ANSWER THE COST OF REHAB IS PROHIBITIVE , ITS A PROBLEM THAT HAS, AND WILL BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME , Edited September 16, 2009 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 I just picture the face of a batterd pensioner who was robbed at home after having a good win on the horses up this way a few years.Were some smack rats were tipped of to his win and robbed and beat the shit out of him.These scum were in their 40s as well. So lets find a solution........and its NOT the "lets kill 'em all" one ! This programme works! Stop knocking it! If it stops incidents such as "quoted" surely that's a good thing?! Why so negative? Swampy GRRRRRRNing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) JUDGE WILLIAM PICKLES CHAMPIONED THIS IDEA MANY YEARS AGO , LEGALIZE DRUGS TAKE OUT THE CUT UP DRUGS. SUPPLY ADDICTS WITH CLEAN GEAR ETC. HE STUDIED THE EFFECTS ON SOCIETY, AS WITH ALL SOCIAL PROBLEMS THE POOR ARE AFFECTED THE MOST THE BURDEN OF ADDICTION IS NOT ONLY FELT BY THE ADDICT BUT THEIR FAMILY'S SUFFER GREATLY , AGREE OR DISAGREE DRUGS ARE HE CURSE OF THE 80s, 90s, AND NOW WITH CRISTAL METH ETC , THE OUT OF SITE OUT OF MIND SCENARIO DOES NOT WORK , THERE ARE MANY WEALTHY ADDICTS OUT THERE TOO, WHO WORK AND LIVE NEAR NORMAL LIVES , AS THERE DRUGS ARE NOT CUT AND RIDDLED WITH WHO KNOWS WHAT , MOST ADDICTS ARE NOT ADDICTED TO HEROIN AS THERE DRUG OF CHOISE HAS BEEN CUT UP THAT MANY TIMES THE POWDER THE FINALLY INJECT IS ALMOST HEROIN FREE THEY ARE ADDICTED TO THE IDEAL , READ JUDGE PICKLES BOOK VERY POWERFULLY AND EYE OPENING ,TAKE THE PROBLEM OF THE STREETS , WE PAY AT THE END OF THE DAY THRU WASTED POLICE AND HEALTH WORKERS TIME , ALL THE HATE IN THE WORLD WILL NOT STOP THE IMPORTATION OF ILLIGAL DRUGS , COMPERTION WILL , AFGANISTAN THE BIGGEST PRODUCER , LET THEM GROW IT AND SURPLY IT, TAX IT , WOULD YOU TAKE IT . HOW MANY FAMILYS WOULD BE FREE OF A CURSE , UNLESS YOU HAVE SEEN OR LOST SOME ONE TO DRUGS ITS EASY TO PASS JUDGEMENT METHADONE AINT THE ANSWER THE COST OF REHAB IS PROHIBITIVE , ITS A PROBLEM THAT HAS AND WILL BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME , STOP FECKIN SHOUTING! What are you trying to say? The cost of rehab is prohibitive? Its a problem has and will be around for a long time? So whats the solution? Killing skags?!!!! This(the programme) COULD be the solution, so why knock it? SHOUTNING Edited September 15, 2009 by Swampy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Its my opinion on the subject and more so in todays sociaty were there has been enough education on the subject of heroin and its dangers so why make it legal giving the green light to take it.The scumbags who beat the pensioner up blamed their addiction to heroin for their unspeakable crime.atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 JUDGE WILLIAM PICKLES CHAMPIONED THIS IDEA MANY YEARS AGO , LEGALIZE DRUGS TAKE OUT THE CUT UP DRUGS. SUPPLY ADDICTS WITH CLEAN GEAR ETC. HE STUDIED THE EFFECTS ON SOCIETY, AS WITH ALL SOCIAL PROBLEMS THE POOR ARE AFFECTED THE MOST THE BURDEN OF ADDICTION IS NOT ONLY FELT BY THE ADDICT BUT THEIR FAMILY'S SUFFER GREATLY , AGREE OR DISAGREE DRUGS ARE HE CURSE OF THE 80s, 90s, AND NOW WITH CRISTAL METH ETC , THE OUT OF SITE OUT OF MIND SCENARIO DOES NOT WORK , THERE ARE MANY WEALTHY ADDICTS OUT THERE TOO, WHO WORK AND LIVE NEAR NORMAL LIVES , AS THERE DRUGS ARE NOT CUT AND RIDDLED WITH WHO KNOWS WHAT , MOST ADDICTS ARE NOT ADDICTED TO HEROIN AS THERE DRUG OF CHOISE HAS BEEN CUT UP THAT MANY TIMES THE POWDER THE FINALLY INJECT IS ALMOST HEROIN FREE THEY ARE ADDICTED TO THE IDEAL , READ JUDGE PICKLES BOOK VERY POWERFULLY AND EYE OPENING ,TAKE THE PROBLEM OF THE STREETS , WE PAY AT THE END OF THE DAY THRU WASTED POLICE AND HEALTH WORKERS TIME , ALL THE HATE IN THE WORLD WILL NOT STOP THE IMPORTATION OF ILLIGAL DRUGS , COMPERTION WILL , AFGANISTAN THE BIGGEST PRODUCER , LET THEM GROW IT AND SURPLY IT, TAX IT , WOULD YOU TAKE IT . HOW MANY FAMILYS WOULD BE FREE OF A CURSE , UNLESS YOU HAVE SEEN OR LOST SOME ONE TO DRUGS ITS EASY TO PASS JUDGEMENT METHADONE AINT THE ANSWER THE COST OF REHAB IS PROHIBITIVE , ITS A PROBLEM THAT HAS AND WILL BE AROUND FOR A LONG TIME , STOP FECKIN SHOUTING! What are you trying to say? The cost of rehab is prohibitive? Its a problem has and will be around for a long time? So whats the solution? Killing skags?!!!! This(the programme) COULD be the solution, so why knock it? SHOUTNING READ IT SLOWLY , AND DIGEST IT , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Its my opinion on the subject and more so in todays sociaty were there has been enough education on the subject of heroin and its dangers so why make it legal giving the green light to take it.The scumbags who beat the pensioner up blamed their addiction to heroin for their unspeakable crime.atb I had no education on the subject of any kind of drugs! the scumbags who blamed their crimes on addiction to drugs did so on the knowllwge that OUR SOCIETY would let them off ! I for one am NOT condoning such behaviour but I AM seeking a solution to that way of thinking Swampy Nrrring Quote Link to post Share on other sites
night moocher 41 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I lost a good friend a good father to his kids and a good hunting pal to heroin ,we got him on rehab programes ,methadone,and fulltime counciling,no matter what we did it all wasnt enough. me and him would stand back to back against anybody including antis at the shows or waterloo cup. im 17 stone 6ft and he was bigger than me ,i watched him get ate away to a frame and admitting he did do street crime to feed his habbit and got away with it because he was a user.our friendship ended when i caught him taking phones from kids and i clouted him just to bring him back to reallity and remind him that thats not him doing that but the brown in his veines.............i attended the funeral of a big lover of hunting and a good family man ,and let me tell you a person on the gear can get away with anything and thats true ,and what makes me laugh is he got more benefits for being a user..i hate the stuff but people got their reasons and who are we to judge if we aint in their shoes. beating olduns i dont wear that or robbing kids , only people on the brown can answer the questions we all ask ,but as for my friend .rip wessa.waste of a good dog man........................................steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swampy 147 Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I lost a good friend a good father to his kids and a good hunting pal to heroin ,we got him on rehab programes ,methadone,and fulltime counciling,no matter what we did it all wasnt enough.me and him would stand back to back against anybody including antis at the shows or waterloo cup. im 17 stone 6ft and he was bigger than me ,i watched him get ate away to a frame and admitting he did do street crime to feed his habbit and got away with it because he was a user.our friendship ended when i caught him taking phones from kids and i clouted him just to bring him back to reallity and remind him that thats not him doing that but the brown in his veines.............i attended the funeral of a big lover of hunting and a good family man ,and let me tell you a person on the gear can get away with anything and thats true ,and what makes me laugh is he got more benefits for being a user..i hate the stuff but people got their reasons and who are we to judge if we aint in their shoes. beating olduns i dont wear that or robbing kids , only people on the brown can answer the questions we all ask ,but as for my friend .rip wessa.waste of a good dog man........................................steve So lets rid the brown! Why are so many folk commenting on a subject that they haven't researched? Its not the man its the drug! Find a solution surely thats a good thing?!!!! Swampy sypathisning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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