Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ok a wee topic for discussion....are good dogs born that way or is it all to do with how they're entered in the field?....is it about opportunity? the amount of game you have access too? Experience.....or is the dog just born that way....Nature V's Nurture.....try to keep it civil and give your reason for your opinion.....my own opinion is it's more to do with how the dog is entered to game. Most pups leave their dam at around 6 - 8 weeks so wont pick up anything from her......I think a dog will learn more from working beside a seasoned campaigner than any trait inherited from the parents. Hi mate I think its a little bit of most things.But as you say nothing will bring a dog on better than working beside a seasoned campaigner.All the better if it is the dogs Mother.Catcher 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 they can learn bad habits from the mother as well as good tho. theres a time in every dogs workin life where it has to stand on its own 4 paws. seen a lot of dogs worked side by side with another dog,there a different animal when you take them out solo some wont hunt as good or make the strike because the other dogs not there to help them or turn the game to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 If the Mother is a good dog you cant go far wrong.Catcher 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 there is a lot of polish turds in scotland Forget it mate sameo sameo.You dont know what you are talking about. So you try and slag Scotland.Anouther fool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alimac 882 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 undisputed, if a pup is brought up well by its dam and owner, it will have alot more confidence about it, being a little more braver than a pup that was taken from its dam too earlie and spends most its time cowering in the corner, and in my opinion you cant have enough confidence in a pup when bringing it on, wether it be terrier or lurcher..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
samba 534 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Some have higher standards than others, therefore how do we define good? If two greyhounds are bred that fail to make the grade, would the offspring be expected to break track records? some of the best broods in ireland have never see a track/race just well bred from litters that have done well ive seen shite a5/6 dogs breed open race dogs and track record holders in the end you take a risk with any bred pup they all dont make the grade just m opion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Breeding is everything, but you get the odd "one off" thats bred from shite. Well it's not a one of then is it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 undisputed, if a pup is brought up well by its dam and owner, it will have alot more confidence about it, being a little more braver than a pup that was taken from its dam too earlie and spends most its time cowering in the corner, and in my opinion you cant have enough confidence in a pup when bringing it on, wether it be terrier or lurcher..... Dont disagree with anything you said there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 it was meant to be a joke catcher dont get your kilt in a twist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Defender Poacher Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Given the choice would take a well bred pup over a pup from unproven or shit stock every single time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ok a wee topic for discussion....are good dogs born that way or is it all to do with how they're entered in the field?....is it about opportunity? the amount of game you have access too? Experience.....or is the dog just born that way....Nature V's Nurture.....try to keep it civil and give your reason for your opinion.....my own opinion is it's more to do with how the dog is entered to game. Most pups leave their dam at around 6 - 8 weeks so wont pick up anything from her......I think a dog will learn more from working beside a seasoned campaigner than any trait inherited from the parents. I think a pup which comes out of good working lines has a better start than a dog coming from unworked lines such as hancocks and other puppy peddlers who breed from anything.. SJM is right in what she is staying first 6-8 weeks of a pups life they learn lots from the dam either picking up faults or good points and these would be?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 it was meant to be a joke catcher dont get your kilt in a twist He's a bit touchy mate the kilt is obviously chaffing his legs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 One other thing a lot of folk in here seem obsessed with polishing turds....very strange! Its just a saying mate and I'm sure you get the idea. The world is full of phrases, Scotland produced the term numpty, one I also like :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Breeding is everything, but you get the odd "one off" thats bred from shite. Well it's not a one of then is it? Eh ? Perhaps i should explain better, sorry. What i mean is, you will get a higher percentage of top class dogs from well bred lines, but you will occasionaly get a good dog, even from street bred curs. you will only ever get a GREAT dog from well bred lines, imho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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