macberran 2 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Voting for the BNP is the refuge for the ignorant and missinformed , heaven forbid they get in .They are not a Democratic party they will lead a us to a road off fascism and self distruction..Fascism and communism is the same religion different roads to the same destination where the state thinks and believes it knows it right. It wouldnt end with the deportation of ethnics ,if your religion doesnt fit ,sexuality ,politics,disabalities ,drain on resources ,your freedom to think and voice against the state would make you enemy of the party and the state.They would use the power you give them to change laws to there beliefs,and will use there mandate you give them to change the values of this country for there twisted sense of democracy.I agree we dont have true political partys.They have failed us badly,signing our rights away and our way of life away while there noses have been in the political trough of Parliament and Europe The finacial disaster political corruption ,weakness is the feeding ground for these miscreants .Vote them out vote independantt vote Liberal or UKIP This will make the mainstraem partys listen to your concerns . And well said ESS. Theres no quick fix for this, John Smith (RIP) was the last hope of leadership really, we have no one off that calibre so its going to be a long haul to get back into shape, but we all want it now. The party is over. Everyone who has the right should vote its what our forefathers died for, the trouble is no-one will. Last election I asked a centeen full off 40 odd tradesmen who had voted......20% had ,thats all . Should get a fine I say. With the voting apathy and inherint laziness that prevails today we are only getting back what we as a society put in. Cheap mortgages,holidays,cars,food,and the luxuries, TV's,computers,playstations X-boxes,holidays,bigger mortgages,second cars etc did not exist 30yrs ago. Who is paying for it now !! ! Well as we stuck our heads in the bucket as this was going on and we ALL chose too ignore it. As it gathered momentum I lost count of the people I heard commenting"it can't last,its unsustainable" as we talked bemused about" holiday loans" "asset releasing" and "buy to lets" Well its all come home too roost ,I say. And we're going too have too live with it. Theres no quick fix, 20-30yrs maybe. There is no diffrence between parties anymore so its all about tactics. Half the people don,t vote never mind thinking about it !! We I believe have still too hear the worst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,856 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Tories until they get in and lift the ban, then BNP all the way Same here, but it wont do tories any harm to not get our votes in Euro elections. [quote name='ESS' date='May 23 2009, 09:57 AM' post='1068303 Apparently this is still a free and democratic country.........so if you dont want to listen to ALL peoples views.....then tough shit !...........you call bnp supporters " ignorant ".....and then state how it does no good to have to listen to bnp views ....so basically,if YOU dont believe in it,you dont want to hear it.....well thats not ignorant at all is it.......... We have to listen every day to all you dogooding idiots trying to force people to integrate....yet when we stand up and have our say yous all want to put your hands over your ears and shut your eyes....and WE are the ignorant ones ......unbelievable ! Well said, its interesting how many people call the BNP nazis and then try to justify banning a political party. Remember the nazis also banned hunting with hounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ESS Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I dont think you understand Gnasher so i will type slowly.. I personally do not think that the BNP is the right way and I shall voice my opinion as a balanced view to yours.The difference between my views and your is I defend your right to voice it but your party would not if in power would let me voice mine. I have concerns over migration integration these failed policys by weak politicians have fed the fire of the greviances.I hate the thought of a federal Europe .I hate the way our system of government has been tainted and possibly mortally damaged. But I wont stand by when the BNP who believe that because your not white jewish gypsy or sexual orientation decrides what makes you British. I have served with Blacks Asians Irish Jews Hindus and there blood shed is the same colour as mine .i have been patched up by an Indian doctor had me teeth done at a Polish dentist eat in out in a chinese restaraunt,all these would be sent home if you get your way. Funny how many of those support the Bnp supported the Gurkkas in a previous thread in there right to settle here,and then voice there support of the BNP.. So If I am labelled a do gooder so be it. As for ignorant your leader until recently denied the fact the holocoust happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I will vote BNP in the local election, as I live in a labour area, and want to see them get a pasting (warm them up for the main event next year, when they all collect their P45's) in the main election I will vote conservative, simply down to the fact they may repeal the huntinting ban, and are the only other party with any expirience of running the country, they have dug us out of the wreckage of a Labout goverment before (Maggie Thatcher). The BNP is still run by a man who denied the holocaust, then changed his mind and simply fails to explain his sudden turnaround until they get some decent leadership, they will ultimately get nowhere, I am not racist in any way, nor do I belive for one moment that we can all live in 'multi-cultural' harmony, I do like some of there ideas, but they need to develop them further and move away from the racist slant, they may well end up a party for the future, and it's about time the main two had a serious challenger, otherwise it will be political ping pong between labour and conservatives forever. Regarding the repeal of the hunting ban and the conservatives, it is my honest opinion, that they will do so regarding fox hunting, but I reckon hare coursing will remain banned. I grew up mainly under a conservative goverment and much prefered it to the last few years under labour. I hope whoever gets in charge next, uses their power to arrest and charge all of those labour politicians and bankers who are responsible for the countries current situation. atvb Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I'm starting to feel a little more optomistic since the expenses row hit the headlines. people are starting to take an interest in whats going on, and shed some of the apathy thats been so prevalant. Just look at this thread for example, people airing strong views The BNP are enjoying popularity at the moment, for the simple reason that, the left wing have stifled healthy debate to such an extent, that people feel they have nowhere else to turn. The arrogance of this present government (and to a certain extent, the other two main parties) is staggering and sickening, they wont stop untill they control every aspect of our lives, its why they get so het up over the BNP, they just cant believe that the british people cant be trusted, not to click into swivel eyed nazi's, the minute they hear Nick Griffins voice. For the record, i'm voting UKIP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest fence_hopper Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 actions speek loader than words Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 If the BNP ever come to power, which I doubt they ever will for various reasons, then look out. I don't suppose many know that we have an uncodified constitution in the UK? Uncodified means that it is not written down, there is no one document that defines the UK constitution. Now, this means that the constitution can be changed very, very easily. If the BNP got into power, their leader could use this to his advantage and overnight, become a Dictator. In the truest sense of the word, he would have ultimate power over everyone and everything. Armed Forces, Police, Parliament, etc etc. Beware. However, I don't think it would happen in the first place, I don't believe HMQ would appoint the leader of the BNP as Prime Minister in the first place. As if the current trend of the winning party not having the majority of the support in the Commons, then he cannot be a suitable candidate with support of the House, which is a pre-requisite of HMQ choosing a PM. Just ranting again.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 actions speek loader than words And spoll chockers improve posts............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 If the BNP ever come to power, which I doubt they ever will for various reasons, then look out. I don't suppose many know that we have an uncodified constitution in the UK? Uncodified means that it is not written down, there is no one document that defines the UK constitution. Now, this means that the constitution can be changed very, very easily. If the BNP got into power, their leader could use this to his advantage and overnight, become a Dictator. In the truest sense of the word, he would have ultimate power over everyone and everything. Armed Forces, Police, Parliament, etc etc. Beware. However, I don't think it would happen in the first place, I don't believe HMQ would appoint the leader of the BNP as Prime Minister in the first place. As if the current trend of the winning party not having the majority of the support in the Commons, then he cannot be a suitable candidate with support of the House, which is a pre-requisite of HMQ choosing a PM. Just ranting again.... There are safeguards in the constitution to stop that happening, if it was possible, dont you think Brown or his odious predecessor teflon tony would already have done it. However, the lisbon treaty if or when it gets passed, will be the final nail in the coffin of british democracy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,123 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 I dont think you understand Gnasher so i will type slowly.. Well thank god you typed it slowly....i understand now much better than if you had typed quickly !!.....have a think about it and then call bnp supporters thick and ignorant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 We need a complete re-think of our government and how the country is run. We should loose half of the 600 odd MPs, then three quarters of the local councilors. We need a written constition. Get rid of the House of Lords because they are either there by birth or by which party in government they bunged a good wedge of money too, and the new one with labour because they are from an ethnic background so it looks all lovely and pc. Publish MPs expenses monthly. Well that's for starters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 MP's are lazy and more self opinionated than anyone. They lie and change the goal posts. So, basically we can't trust any of them. My main concern is the rush off immigrants into our country. hasnt anyone thought about what this means......put on hold the over bearing burden on the NHS , the tax system, the benefits.... MORE people need MORE house.....in short, this equates to MORE habitat destruction and less countryside left. For Fuck4 sake, how long do we leave it before we put the "FULL UP" sign out??.... Every day bits of rough, ,wildlife-rich ground is being developed. Britain is being eaten up by a plague of concrete, breezeblock and tarmac!!!! WE need to think aboutt he environment.....there are already too many of us in the UK...we dont need anymore romanians, polish etc...we just dont....and can anyone argue with that?? I'm voting for the Party that will stop all the leeches coming over here and , indirectly, destroying our countryside and, ultimately, our little island.......JD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 If you realy want to understand immigration, go to youtube and type in "europe 50 year plan" or "britain on the brink" Look at the posts made by independants so as to get an unbiased view. Welcome to reality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jasper65 6 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 All the anti BNP brigade should take some time out and just listen to the video clip below!! you can't honestly tell me that you do not agree with at least one of the things mentioned in this BNP election broadcast? from my own point of view they represent a party in support of the UNITED KINGDOM and what it once was!! includeing all the people that fought and died for this country to make it what it once was..... we're now a laughing stock across Europe if not across the world... click and scroll down to the video link BNP Election Broadcast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tallyho 181 Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsA_Xko4tqM i dont know if this will work . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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