It is the same dog but originates in Germany . The lad who has these will have teckle German papers also kc papers because he has teckle German papers it's recognised as a worker because it has had to do certain test to be able to be bred from and have German papers . The ones over here was brought over years ago and are no longer worked because the kc and people have wrecked the breed . Same as the gwp some people work them over here some don't and there still kc . In Germany this dosent happen you can still buy them over there that haven't been tested but will not have papers . It's stricked