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A bayer type might suit you better that a harderish type if larger quarry is concerned. I brought this up in the large vs. small thread. I think a small hard terrier is worthless on quarry much larger or equally able to dish out damage. Size isn't always as important as attitude as a small dog IS worth it's weight in gold if it survives to tell the story another hunt. If they die because they are severely lacking cleverness and tactics in battle, your dead dog cost you a year of waiting to find out. Your expectation of bolting seems very reasonable although my experience with fox is nothing.
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Stop it Kye! I live in a slightly western state and the thought of 47lb coon scares the crap outta me.
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Hoss, you ain't new to the game, you ever seen a wild 40-50lb coon? Fatcity, I would never call you a liar, but I have not seen a coon even close to 50lbs in my entire life, nor has my father who hunted coons for 20 years, before I was born. Got one that I believe was 38lbs I caught trapping and was actually weighed. 50lb coons would kill all my dogs........
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I don't want a dogo Uphill. Want nothing to do with them. Just wondering if of all the bull crosses used for lurcher, if this was ever one of them. I'd rather have what I got....or what you have
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Obviously you have developed an opinion not based on experience. I have seen to many XXXL coon harvested in front of small terriers to agree that a big hard terrier is the only ticket for them. Don't worry about my experience BredtoHunt, that I've got. A small HARD terrier is not the best tool for XXXL coons. They will eventually get killed. Unless you are right there to help them, they will not overcome a jumbo coon. A bayer type is a must, if you MUST use a small dog. I've seen little 12lb JRT's "harvest" raccoons with lots of help from the hunter. Someplaces you can't help out right
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So.....anybody seen or heard of a dogo lurcher?
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Small in America, is probably (of course some will disagree), but I'd say under 12in and under 14lbs, then med or average 12-14in 14-17lbs, large over that. I have one probably 13in 20lbs and he is definitely big by American standards but probably average or med from what I've seen of European terriers. Spannability doesn't mean a whole lot to me. My hands are larger than most people as I'm a mini Sasquatch and I've seen dogs that I could barely span fit places that easily spannable dogs wouldn't push to fit. The larger dogs drive made them get where they wanted. Now a small, spannable dog wit
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Dan, no harm bud. Seems different strokes for different folks. I'm not for or against this at all. Man...I should be in politics huh? LOL
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Didn't mean to bring a bad light on the pits fellas. I like them plenty, but a lot of people throw around the term "game" bred and that means one thing. Didn't know why pits, not a hunting dog by nature, are preferred over something that is a hunting dog by creation? Real pits are probably the best athletes in the dog world, but that doesn't mean Matt Hughes or George St. Pierre are going to win a gold in the 100m hurdles sprint or 5000m run. Not intended to be 100% accurate, but you get what I mean. Certain things for certain things. Seems the "real" dogos aren't a joke and are LESS dog aggre
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maltenby, for my ignorant sake, could you describe smaller dogs in European terms? I believe what you think is smaller maybe different from what is described as smaller here.
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Don't know why dogo? Why not, you don't need a game bred (dog fighter) crossed with fast dog to catch game do you? Wouldn't a bully dog with bite, athletic ability, and no/less dog aggression do about the same thing? Would be an interesting cross, not necessarily something I'd do......or not do.... New to lurchers trying to figure out how the pit/gh cross became so popular.
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shinyspade, that's what I do too, just more or less surprised there aren't more smaller sized dogs over seas and few larger dogs here.
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Anybody ever have a dogo x greyhound/deerhound/staghound? Pretty athletic dogs, been seeing lots of alaunt and other bull crosses. Figured these were for boar and jaguar, a fast dog in the mix would make an interesting cross.
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YOU AINT BEEN COON HUNTING THEN I'd have to agree with you blackandtan.... but then again, maybe they can, but its what the dog can do with them when they get there.
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Pops, I'm not new to the terrier game, but it seems many Americans believe the smaller is bigger and the Europeans feel larger is likewise. I use 15-17lbers for most of my coon hunting and a couple smaller ones for digging sport. I think the Americans could use a little larger dog for barns and woodpiles and I personally would favor a slightly larger dog. Unfortunately, most of the great locators, gritty, rough mixer types are in the small-med range of size. There are badger, fox, and coyotes here to work and a larger size dog would seem beneficial.
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It seems ya'll overseas prefer what Americans would call a larger earthdog say 14-16in, 16-25lbers. For fox and were legal badger. In America, most seem to want a 10-14in, 10-16lber. For groundhog, fox, coon, badger. Why the difference? Why wouldn't a small dog with all the desired traits from America work on European fox and badger? Why wouldn't a larger terrier be desired for barnsmashing and woodpiles in America for jumbo XXXL coons? Seems like they should be able to work both ways, but many stick to what is done geographically. I've heard of 6lb woodchuck dogs in the US, an
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Western South Dakota has tons of public ground, state and federal. I lived out west for 4 years and it was a hunters haven. Now that the wifey got me moved to the eastern side of the state, I have to ask every farmer for permission.
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Here's a couple workers, one rough, one smooth. Produced a litter of 7 from these two, all reds except 1 black and tan.
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Gmac, saw one the other day in the city at the dog park. I asked the lady where she got it and said a show lady who sells the pet quality ones. She wanted to trade me for my airedale and I told her it was a wirecoated pitbull and then she declined. Stupid people. Whatever happened to owning working dogs for working? If you know of a wheaten lookin for a home in a different continent, let me know......
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Kye, Don't know what to tell ya other than mine does the same thing. Fade in and fade out when you use the battery power. Be careful lamping here in the states. I don't think you can spotlight anywhere in the US, except when calling predators like fox, coyotes, etc. Not sure if you can or can't, but I know a lot of folks do it. I wouldn't tell anybody you know about it. What a you lamping? Jackrabbits and coyotes?
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Good stuff there Doc. Who bred up Grace and the others? Would be nice to have something a little larger like Grace to watch Twig's back, my new one from RC. Great stories.
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On the original topic: a smart dogman told me "they will reproduce the average of their litter". This makes a lot of sense as superstar dogs of average litters usually produce average litters. While an average worker from a litter of superstars will be a solid reproducer of solid above average dogs. Breed not important. Many of the world's best dogs don't reproduce worth a damn. Check out Gr. Nite Champion coonhounds. They get studded to 100's of females and only a few actually turn out superstar litters. The vast majority will be average dogs, especially when bred to average females. Same wit
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A bullet or extreme shock therapy with an e-collar. Dog aggression is not tolerable in a working dog of any type. Livestock breaking can be easily done with an e-collar. I'd cut my loses and move on him.
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Dan Edwards, Israel aka catchdog, said you had a littermate to her. Got any pics?
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Here's a couple pics of the new little rat, named Twig. Threatening to kick my wife's ass if she came over to her blanket.