just to put the record right i bought the dog the pics do not do the dog any credit he,s a good stamp of a dog in tip top nick and as add said with a trial what more could you want just goes to show that no matter how gen a add you put up on this site if you dont put up a pic of a dog with his chin hanging of some nob head slaggs you of .its not all of us that want to get a knock on the door because of a picture on this site that anyone can join and look at