Thanks for your comments lads Davey boy, first of all, i hope all goes well with the birth, lets hope theres a bitch or 2 amongst em, i no you want a bitch for yourself, but if there is just the one, no worries matey, the thoughts of you offering me a pup has made me up, im always the first up these mornings with my thoughts, so even though the bugger hasnt been born yet, its already had some good outings,