posts like these make my piss boil what sort of fecking moron comes on a forum asking other people whether or not their dog needs the vets?? in the time it takes to write these posts and wait for a reply then the dog could have been to the vets and had a check over even if it is just for piece of mind if my dog gets hurt and i think the dog is in any pain or discomfort then its straight off to the vets no matter what it costs end of