my bitch is 21" and pretty fast, and shes got them up out of seat, but the hare just plays with her, they dont even put there ears down! youve got to give them a fair chance to say they can do them properly? and depending on what time of year, i.e full of young or full of milk! and type of ground:thumbdown: you get one jan or feb winter hare not in young, day time that is! not on lamp!THEN you,ll see what sort of athletic animal youre dealing with. they made my bitch look like a selling plate PRE BAN! FACT!