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  4. SHOW US YOUR PATTERDALES

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    5 hours ago, Apache... said:

    I gave up overthinking and analysing terrier work years ago simply because one day your digging to ur dog you've bred thinking its a goodun then your 5 feet down you look up and it's staring down at you?????? I stick to the basics now and what the dogs have taught me over the years ( which is more than any dogman has ).

    Probably the most sensible thing I’ve heard on the internet ? take a young dog to a live set on his own no other dogs people or distractions and you will learn a whole lot from them especially the type I keep are a little bit highly strung and it doesn’t take much to break there chain of thought of the matter in hand 

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  5. SHOW US YOUR PATTERDALES

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    48 minutes ago, howdeeposxxt said:

    So this is how I see it in my little brain. Hypothetically speaking if I was to keep 4 out of a litter.  One morning I decide to take all young dogs out at 18mth and I have 4 digs of similar dept and time, again like I said Hypothetically speaking . So the first terrier goes in and works his quarry and the dig is perfect one hole  I lift him and im very pleased he worked a treat . We move on to the second terrier he goes in and gives it a bit,  works away but I have to dig a couple a holes to get him out but he is there in the end so I lift him im still chuffed he stuck to it. The 3rd terrier goes in meets his quarry I try to locate a spot but he is fannying about not settling then comes out after half hour not looking keen to go back in and looks abit sorry for himself, what goes on in my mind -is ok this guy is taking the piss and i drop an experienced dog and we get the quarry. 3rd terrier im not f***ing happy at all. 4th terrier is brought to a hole he has no interest all he wants ta do is hump the dog beside him or be petted but thats ok in my mind ill give him more time. Bottom line when I go home ill keep the 1st terrier the second terrier and the 4th terrier.  If someone else wants the 3rd one they would be more than welcome to em. Im done now on the subject to many ifs and buts 

    I’d agree with you ? per cent but that’s not how your first post came across 

  6. SHOW US YOUR PATTERDALES

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    2 hours ago, howdeeposxxt said:

    There's hiccups and there is walking away from your quarry.   Ill stand by what I said I've no place for walkers. I would allow for hiccups for a young dog too make mistakes below ground but once he is there in the finish thats a result and a good start for a young dog, but to walk to me is the worst start possible 

    There’s a big difference in a green pup losing game or something happens underground and it doesn’t have the experience to work it out and walking away from the quarry it’s being able to spot the difference I’m no fool they don’t all make it regardless of breeding but just because they didn’t dig the game doesn’t always mean they walked either it’s a matter of personal opinion how you view the dog 

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    11 hours ago, howdeeposxxt said:

    If terrier was on his quarry and walked away from it to me that's a jacker and the worst possible start and a very quick end to his/her working life. From day one they need to be consistent.

    You either have a yard full of world beaters or an empty yard with that view to me there’s no right or wrong way to enter a young dog your opinion is based on the outcome if he digs it in your mind it’s the perfect start if he doesn’t you are downhearted from day one the truth of the matter is a great dog isn’t born great it takes time effort and lots of work you have got to allow for hiccups along the way and any man that tells you that he has got everything he’s put the dog too I’d take with a pinch of salt ?? I’ve been lucky enough to see some top class dogs both hard no reverse types and rock steady away with no damage and none are any better than the other it’s just personal preference to your style of hunting and the land you hunt 

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