Cheers all for the replies its much apreciated .
I think you're right there Ditch. I looked at him this morning and he looks a bit wasted around the back quarters compared to the rest of him, he still eats like a good un but its looking like age has taken its course. I could kick myself as I bred from this pair for a number of years and never kept a youngster back! I used to give them away to lads who wanted to work them in the area, both have been excellent workers for me in the past, I was on the phone trying to get hold of a youngster yesterday hopefully from the same line but no joy,